How to add variation to your track

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:57 am

Hey,

So because I know I'm going to get flamed for what I'm about to say I mineaswell explain. I used to make Dubstep a lot but mostly the kind under the Skrillex style I guess? So that's the best way to describe it but I'm a perfectionist and if I found something wrong with my song I'd delete it. So I quit making music for a few months, now I'm back and I want to put out one more banger like that but much better and it'll be my last song like that until I move on to progressive house/electrostep or whatever you categorize it as. I seem to be getting everything, like I have a great melody, drums, sick buildup, and then like maybe 10 seconds of a drop, but then to continue with it I obviously need to make it vary and add different sounds (the talking wobble yoi is common) but like others too but my problem is I'm not really good with the whole variation thing on how to do it if that makes sense? So what I'm asking is if somebody could be nice enough to either redirect me to a video which shows how to add variation to your dubstep track? That would be the best since I'm a visual person but if not maybe show me some other way and if no other way is possible writing it out works too:)

This would help SO much I can't even explain.
Thanks in advance

dubesteppe · Post by **dubesteppe** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:26 am

no one can explain how to be creative to you. dont try to label your track in a specific genre, and certainly dont try and copy what skrillex does. do what you think sounds good to you. mess around with some synths and try to get an idea, then build off of it. EXPERIMENT

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:31 am

dubesteppe wrote:no one can explain how to be creative to you. dont try to label your track in a specific genre, and certainly dont try and copy what skrillex does. do what you think sounds good to you. mess around with some synths and try to get an idea, then build off of it. EXPERIMENT

I'm not asking someone to build the track for me, or say "hey, oh you need help well here put all these notes in your piano roll and you'll have a sick track!" No, not at all. I also try not to label it as Skrillex, or say it sounds like that but its a heavier track I guess you could say so that seemed like the easiest and quickest way of saying it.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:41 am

he was still right with everything he said....

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:53 am

Whatever. I'm done with this forum every time I ask a simple question I always get a dickhead response. I wasnt fucking asking you to make a song for me, I was asking for suggestions on how I could improve because its something I struggle with.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:56 am

well maybe if you posted a sample of what you have and what you want to achieve (and asked politely) you would get the resonse you want. no one can help you if you don't give us something to work with

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:03 am

ehbrums1 wrote:well maybe if you posted a sample of what you have and what you want to achieve (and asked politely) you would get the resonse you want. no one can help you if you don't give us something to work with

Please do tell me how the original post was rude, or I was being in any way not polite? And it was in general, instead of just making it wobble all the time and changing the notes or wobble how to make it interesting by adding a lot of different noises. I can't position them right and it doesn't sound good. Whatever

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:05 am

you kinda jumped after people but whatever, well have you tried automating different things like pitch, lfo amount and speed, all that good stuff

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:08 am

ehbrums1 wrote:you kinda jumped after people but whatever, well have you tried automating different things like pitch, lfo amount and speed, all that good stuff

How?! Its cause I'm tired of always posting being a nice guy and then getting shit thrown in my face, thats why when I get comments that are like that, don't jump at me and I won't jump at you. And yes I have

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:11 am

well i don't know what else to say, having an interesting drum pattern is the biggest thing, if your drums are boring your track is boring

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:12 am

If u can't be a creator, be an editor. Create a bunch of content for your switch ups and just pick what works best.

Also check out brostep forum. It may be more suited to your style.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:16 am

not finishing your tracks is what's biting you in the ass, finish your tunes even if you're a perfectionist
then you can evolve from there and notice in comparison what you're lacking

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:17 am

Brad1 wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:you kinda jumped after people but whatever, well have you tried automating different things like pitch, lfo amount and speed, all that good stuff
How?! Its cause I'm tired of always posting being a nice guy and then getting shit thrown in my face, thats why when I get comments that are like that, don't jump at me and I won't jump at you. And yes I have

you've posted a total of 8 times, i'd hardly call that a trend of always anything

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:26 am

nowaysj wrote:If u can't be a creator, be an editor. Create a bunch of content for your switch ups and just pick what works best.

Also check out brostep forum. It may be more suited to your style.

It's not that I can't create its that I'm just still learning and ran into a bump into the road. Not givin up, thanks though. Also was that a joke? Or is there actually one lol?

deadly habit wrote:not finishing your tracks is what's biting you in the ass, finish your tunes even if you're a perfectionist
then you can evolve from there and notice in comparison what you're lacking

Sorry, I meant if I listened to them once I uploaded them to SoundCloud and there was x second to x second I didn't like or thought could be better I would either take it off/make that change.. couldn't just let it fly would have to fix it. I also did completely delete the tracks cause I've learnt a lot more now and am making better tracks but I still have a lot to learn.

deadly habit wrote:
Brad1 wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:you kinda jumped after people but whatever, well have you tried automating different things like pitch, lfo amount and speed, all that good stuff
How?! Its cause I'm tired of always posting being a nice guy and then getting shit thrown in my face, thats why when I get comments that are like that, don't jump at me and I won't jump at you. And yes I have
you've posted a total of 8 times, i'd hardly call that a trend of always anything

Yeah, had another account I lost the pw, and forgot the email to with around 200 posts (I know isn't a lot) but whenever I would post something I would mostly get answers that didn't help at all. People being just plain rude, and other things of the sort.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:31 am

you learn with practice and finishing songs, there's no magic fast forward button to this
don't focus on trying to make a song like skrillex (hell he has a decade just in the professional realm of music on you, and i'm guessing quite a bit of practice before that), or trying to upload songs to soundcloud
focus on writing basic tunes, finishing them and figuring out in comparison to what you like to listen to or what you're trying to emulate they are lacking and focus on that element (structure wise not sound design wise)
the rest will fall into place with experimentation, practice, reading, and the natural progression of things

Brad1 · Post by **Brad1** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:37 am

deadly habit wrote:you learn with practice and finishing songs, there's no magic fast forward button to this
don't focus on trying to make a song like skrillex (hell he has a decade just in the professional realm of music on you, and i'm guessing quite a bit of practice before that), or trying to upload songs to soundcloud
focus on writing basic tunes, finishing them and figuring out in comparison to what you like to listen to or what you're trying to emulate they are lacking and focus on that element (structure wise not sound design wise)
the rest will fall into place with experimentation, practice, reading, and the natural progression of things

Thank you, great response:)

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:39 am

just keep making tunes and eventually you'll get there. but don't think that switch daw's is going to make you learn faster, if anything it will delay you. there are some really great threads about sound design that you might wanna take a look at

Hertz · Post by **Hertz** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:51 am

lol this thread, I swear...

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:57 am

deadly habit wrote:(structure wise not sound design wise)

This is really important. Sound design and structure really are the same thing, but you can change their sort of balance as you are working. Getting the skeleton of a song done FIRST, and then focusing on the sound design can be really effective as once you see w/in the song where things need to happen, you'll then have something TO design. You'll know this sound will have to build, or release, or create suspense or whatever. Just working on sound design is great for learning, but too much time there, and you'll miss the plot that your sounds need to be embodying the movement/flow of energy within your song.

Also, if you are posting and getting a lot of rude replies in return, you may want to consider that there is something in the way that you are communicating that is generating that kind of response. A lot of times people around here are just fucking around with their attitude, and a thicker skin would serve you well, other times you may be putting out a bad vibe and not realize it.

dubesteppe · Post by **dubesteppe** » Tue May 08, 2012 4:06 am

Brad1 wrote:Hey,

So because I know I'm going to get flamed for what I'm about to say I mineaswell explain. I used to make Dubstep a lot but mostly the kind under the Skrillex style I guess? So that's the best way to describe it but I'm a perfectionist and if I found something wrong with my song I'd delete it. So I quit making music for a few months, now I'm back and I want to put out one more banger like that but much better and it'll be my last song like that until I move on to progressive house/electrostep or whatever you categorize it as. I seem to be getting everything, like I have a great melody, drums, sick buildup, and then like maybe 10 seconds of a drop, but then to continue with it I obviously need to make it vary and add different sounds (the talking wobble yoi is common) but like others too but my problem is I'm not really good with the whole variation thing on how to do it if that makes sense? So what I'm asking is if somebody could be nice enough to either redirect me to a video which shows how to add variation to your dubstep track? That would be the best since I'm a visual person but if not maybe show me some other way and if no other way is possible writing it out works too:)

This would help SO much I can't even explain.
Thanks in advance

Sorry, Let me rephrase my previous answer. To add variation to your track you might want to try making it different then the part you are varying it from

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