waves Maxxbass: Helpful or hurtful?

[spotofthedead]

So I just picked up maxxbass (and the diamond bundle) by waves. Even with the default patch you can hear and feel quite the difference in the lower ranges. I was wondering why I had never heard of this in the forum? Is there a huge downside I'm missing? I know if you pump it to hard it will sound fuzzy on a large system. Using small amounts have improved how my mix sounds on any system I play it on.

To clarify my questions...
Does anyone else use maxxbass?
Anyone specifically avoiding it? And why.
Is it pro or no?

Thanks in advance to anyone who chimes in on this thread!

[wub]

So I just picked up maxxbass (and the diamond bundle) by waves.

Nice - how much did you get it for? All the places I've looked at are silly money

[AxeD]

Helpful in moderate amounts.

[spotofthedead]

Very silly money... Haha. I got it for all the tools it comes with. Seemed to be the highest quality and most complete I could find. I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of these...

[wub]

Very silly money... Haha. I got it for all the tools it comes with. Seemed to be the highest quality and most complete I could find. I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of these...

How much did it cost?

[lloydy]

Native bundle is £1200,shit man wish i had your job lol

[fragments]

I'm pretty sure if you check the Waves website they have a pretty good description of how exactly MaxxBass works...if memory serves me correctly I believe MaxxBass adds additional harmonics, so it'd make sense too much of it would muddy up a mix. I've not demoed it, but was certainly thinking about it. Heard good things for a few people.

[Attila]

Just like all other effects, use in moderation. Adds a good bit of oomph to the bottom end if your track needs it. Probably wouldn't use it on anything other than my kicks though.

[Shum]

if you can afford diamond bundle then chances are you have access to quality drum samples and bass synths/samples such that Maxxbass won't be needed really. Personally speaking Maxxbass has been useful for beefing up weak (live) drums and especially shit bass guitar recordings. That's about all I've ever used it for.

[wormcode]

Way overpriced, and they are cheaper than they used to be. They are riding on their name and history in the industry but Waves has been outdone since by new developers.
I have a friend who uses maxbass a lot, and his tracks have too much bass. Be subtle with it.

[AxeD]

Make sure you're monitoring at a decent level too, otherwise you slap that plugin on and it ends up
being way too bass heavy in da clup.

[nowaysj]

Just posting to say that I like the word clup. A lot.

[paradigm_x]

Very silly money... Haha. I got it for all the tools it comes with. Seemed to be the highest quality and most complete I could find. I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of these...

How much did it cost?

'Picked up' is bandied around so much...

[spotofthedead]

I got it for about a thousand American from a small music shop here. I have no kids, live in a cheap apartment and work a shitty job. Producing is my life, its all I spend my money on. I didn't just buy it for Maxxbass, I bought it for the wide variety of crap in it. Some seem good and have unique features...not yet sure if it was worth the money, but I needed to invest in some serious plug ins. You guys are right proper monitoring is critical with maxxbass. It does what it says, beefs up low end harmonics to create the appearance of bass Freq in shit speakers. that being said from the short time I been tinkering with it...the better the monitor reproduction, the muddier you get.

Thanks to everyone for getting in on this! Best forum site ever!

[legend4ry]

Its great for beefing up breaks and sampled material from older vinyl which doesn't carry much bass (30s/40s stuff)

Haven't found much use for it to improve modern day sound sources.

Granted - I don't own it I have just used it in a mix a few times when I have mixed at a studio which owns Waves plugins but thats all I could see a use for it.

[outbound]

I've tried this a few times, really like what it can do to bring out the fundamental on a kick or snare.

As said before though tread with caution, way too easy too overdo it, keep your eye on the metre, very easy to clip the outputs of the plugin

[deadly_habit]

the lo air plug by waves is interesting in moderation as well

[nowaysj]

Doesn't R Bass do something similar, create higher harmonics that psychoacoustically augment the lower fundamental? Have not tried, but I know legit mix engineers use this plug (extensively).

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Any mention of waves around here usually implies a crack, and I'm the first person to suggest it, but maybe op is legit?