Bouncing out tracks with reverb

[Talált]

hey guys, i was working on a mixdown and was bouncing each track to wav. and i had a little difficulty here with my drum and lead tracks, which both have a bit of reverb on them. now, should i bounce out the whole songs worth of midi/pattern and leave the reverb tail on the end? because i was bouncing out a 16 bar and then arranging my songs like this, and i was having trouble deciding where to cut the tail off the reverb.

hopefully you guys get what i'm saying, after the 16 bar pattern, there is a tail of reverb that goes into the next bar.. where should i cut this, or should i bounce out a whole songs worth and then just leave the tail at the end of the song.

i don't want that tail to overlap and muddy up my mix if i do it 16 bar pattern by 16 bar pattern.

[drake89]

why are you bouncing only 16 bars at a time? 16 bars is one short song.

here's a protip for you; ambience effects go in parallel (reverb, delay), while gain effects go in series. That is a tip, obviously not a rule.

[skiplit]

^^ agree with drake

its all up to you really, but I would keep the tail end to keep it from sounding weird
the mixdown should keep it from muddying up the track (mentioned gain effects in previous post)

[NinjaEdit]

You generally don't want cut reverb tails, unless it's for a deliberate effect (like gated reverb).

Reminds me of a cut in The Police's "Roxanne," I think the line "sell your body to the night."

[2mb1o]

Bounce wet and dry in 2 different tracks.
With that you can make what you want like editing reverb tails or sidechain the reverb bounce with the dry track.

[wub]

If you're bouncing loops, bounce them as dry as possible if you intend to arrange them later and add the reverb in then.

If you're bouncing the whole song, I generally add an empty 4bar pattern at the end of the arrangement to allow any reverb/delay to decay naturally. This can then be chopped off/shortened once you know where the sound ends.

[Talált]

thanks guys really great info here!! thank esp to drake i had no idea about separating effects like that, looks like its time for me to learn up on mixer routing.

[Sharmaji]

i absolutely hate getting stems w/ ambience printed on them. unless it's amazing, captured-in-the-moment space... and even then, i'd rather get that ambience printed separately, so i can blend it in.

[MaZa1]

How about fading the tail? So if it gets muddy or something, a slight fading might do the trick. Not sure if this works.

[Talált]

ps i bounce 16 bar loops because i perform my songs that way, building in and breaking down, etc. instead of djing or hitting play/beat repeat