The Defenition of Dubstep

razer-wire · Post by **razer-wire** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:21 am

im trying to think of the Defenition of Dubstep im not so sure whot it is the best idea iv came up with is that its the best music ive heard but still im not sure do you have any idea whot it could be??????

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:32 am

when dub meets 2step/garage...

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:35 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:when dub meets 2step/garage...

i think theres an element of tech house in their somwhere

check out a guy called richie hawtin aka plasticman

real similar beats and sounds

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:41 am

^^^now i know you didn't just mention the H word ???

...only similarity to house is the odd throwback to 4/4 garage and some 8bar which i never really liked

then again can't say as i've heard any plastikman...

...got a link 2 a mix of his you rate ???

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:41 am

tech house ?? r u mad?? theres no tech house in there ...

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:44 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:^^^now i know you didn't just mention the H word ???

...only similarity to house is the odd throwback to 4/4 garage and some 8bar which i never really liked

then again can't say as i've heard any plastikman...

...got a link 2 a mix of his you rate ???

http://www.myspace.com/fuseplastikman

check it out--tracks on there--i recommend korridor

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:40 am

I reckon it depends on whats meant by tech house. Nowadays thats a term which can refer to a very broad spectrum of music (although is probs a little misused here). I definately think that techno has played a fair part in dubsteps development. Basic Channel (and clearly their development into Rhythm & Sound) is an obvious reference point for a number of artists (kode9 and pinch have said so outright). This is quite a way from what most ppl call tech house but when you try to divide stuff up it all gets pretty confusing anyway. And i reckon mala must have listened to a bit of house/techno in his time.

Its a shame, i reckon plastikman has a bad rep on our scene cos of the whole name change thing, but his music is incredible. In terms of the development of the use of space in sound and his cavernous atmosphere i think theres a strong comparison with dubstep. Again, burial put an old-school plastikman tune in his top 10 of the year last year. And plastikman regularly drops rhythm & sound tunes in his sets. So i reckon there are a lot of crossovers

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:44 am

While i dont know much about the development of techno and house, I suspect that the division between them was never that great, before they split into hundreds of sub-genres, some of which I guess are the root of some people's aversion to the word house! Theres always divergence but then theres always convergence and cross-pollination. If that makes any sense

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:58 am

elgato wrote:I reckon it depends on whats meant by tech house. Nowadays thats a term which can refer to a very broad spectrum of music (although is probs a little misused here). I definately think that techno has played a fair part in dubsteps development. Basic Channel (and clearly their development into Rhythm & Sound) is an obvious reference point for a number of artists (kode9 and pinch have said so outright). This is quite a way from what most ppl call tech house but when you try to divide stuff up it all gets pretty confusing anyway. And i reckon mala must have listened to a bit of house/techno in his time.

Its a shame, i reckon plastikman has a bad rep on our scene cos of the whole name change thing, but his music is incredible. In terms of the development of the use of space in sound and his cavernous atmosphere i think theres a strong comparison with dubstep. Again, burial put an old-school plastikman tune in his top 10 of the year last year. And plastikman regularly drops rhythm & sound tunes in his sets. So i reckon there are a lot of crossovers

nice 1 nicely put

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:00 pm

This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:03 pm

Blackdown wrote:This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep

i seen this before its a good read man did my homework for the yout group i work with..

alot of them wanted to know more which surprised me as usually kids arent that in depth at a younger age..not saying all of em befor this turns into a ''i hate 8bit forum

k?

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:33 pm

Plastikman is minimal techno... definately dubby at times.

flaviano · Post by **flaviano** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:49 pm

Dubstep recipe:
Half a pint of dub reggae
100g of Grime
50g of Jungle on valium
A teaspoon of minimal techno

mungo · Post by **mungo** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:03 pm

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:15 pm

flaviano wrote:Dubstep recipe:
Half a pint of dub reggae
100g of Grime
50g of Jungle on valium
A teaspoon of minimal techno

lol love it delia

fullyrecordingz · Post by **fullyrecordingz** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:30 pm

dubstep is like a skeleton of grime. living in the gut of garage.
the skeletal beats mixed with the dark hollow wasteland expanse like its homeland London. but occasionaly dere is a glimmer of light or flash of colour that cuts fru all da screamin subbass and it bursts into colour.

Of course other technological advances in music made it possible 2 form soundscapes as this. and yeh it does borrow themes from all musics like grime does alot. but Grime and Dubstep r da newest types of music and are genres both in their own right

flaviano · Post by **flaviano** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:57 pm

i wouldnt say they were the newest genres of music, both been around a while really.

if you want real new music, try Yugoslavian three quarter step

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:57 pm

listing dubstep's influences is all well and good but it's now more important the producers in the scene find new and unique ideas i reckon.

flaviano · Post by **flaviano** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:58 pm

I'd like to see some classical Dubstep, in the way that Rossz Scillag by venetian snares was a classical breakcore album. that would be fucking shit hot. the intro to skreams set @ grimelock brussels is the closest thing ive heard so far

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:08 pm

flaviano wrote:I'd like to see some classical Dubstep, in the way that Rossz Scillag by venetian snares was a classical breakcore album. that would be fucking shit hot. the intro to skreams set @ grimelock brussels is the closest thing ive heard so far

just so happens that theres a remix of the nutcracker-dubstep style but i cant tell you where to get it coz its illegal download

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