DMZ in the Observer 29.07.07

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Re: DMZ in the Observer 29.07.07

Post by boomnoise » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:47 pm

right. article in the observer = big

loads of really grating inaccuracies and broadsheet waffle.

disect it as you will but... all publicity is g... etc
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Post by ufo over easy » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:58 pm

that's a pretty good write up..

maybe the next dmz will be full of grey haired comtemplative thirtysomethings :D
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Post by threnody » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:58 pm

ha ha!! I saw this browsing the review section this morning.....it's okay! Of course the few inaccuracies.... saying it's 3 years old etc....

To be honest it sounds like it was written in 2003/4 with comments about it being up for experimentation etc....Gave a nice snapshot of how things were pre dubstep warz!! Maybe for an outside observer(!) the sounds are still varied compared to your 4x4 monotony of MoS or Gatecrasher??

Shame not to see SUB FM mentioned when Rinse got coverage.

Dealt with quite well on the whole tho and good to see the press as usual!
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Post by contakt » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:11 pm

threnody wrote:Maybe for an outside observer(!) the sounds are still varied...
Hang on - you saying that the sound isn't varied any more?
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Post by Pada » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:39 pm

Yeah pretty good review.
Yeah dubstep is older than 3 years but not to the press it aint
they only noticed it three years ago so i can forgive that

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Post by sinc_vision » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:56 pm

pretty good as these things go.
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Post by blackdown » Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:33 pm

for a national newspaper writing about a UK urban subculture, that's surprisingly accurate :)
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Post by corpsey » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:08 pm

''That is why you don't go to a dubstep night to drink fancy cocktails, to snog on the dancefloor or to get high.''

Speak for yourself, Alice.

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Post by threnody » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:35 pm

Contakt wrote:
threnody wrote:Maybe for an outside observer(!) the sounds are still varied...
Hang on - you saying that the sound isn't varied any more?
I think that for people well versed in the scene the sound is varied (halfstep, 2 step, technoish, glitchy, hard, dark) a lot more so than other genres but there isn't the massive experimentation evident throughout the scene that the article suggests....A small handful of people are pushing something new and different and lots are playing some heavy strucutred dancefloor smashers! I suppose i was still a bit sleepy when i wrote that, there is defiantly variety between Skream and Sully and Distance and Oyaarss and Shonky and yourself Ed.....lots of palettes coming to the table....There are definatly a lot of influences and angles to the scene.
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Post by umkhontowesizwe » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:36 pm

"Around him a gaggle of shaven-headed boys have already gathered"

i like this bit :lol: . that article is a lot better than most that appear in the mainstream press.

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Post by boomnoise » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:43 pm

My favourite bit is this:

The crowd is young, multicoloured and predominantly male, but there is no hint of aggression. People sip beers but no one seems drunk.

for many different reasons

lol

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Post by sully_shanks » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:28 pm

boomnoise wrote:My favourite bit is this:

The crowd is young, multicoloured and predominantly male, but there is no hint of aggression. People sip beers but no one seems drunk.

for many different reasons

lol
haha multicoloured wtf!?
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Post by ashley » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:49 pm

sully_shanks wrote:
boomnoise wrote:My favourite bit is this:

The crowd is young, multicoloured and predominantly male, but there is no hint of aggression. People sip beers but no one seems drunk.

for many different reasons

lol
haha multicoloured wtf!?
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"Around him a gaggle of shaven-headed boys have already gathered"
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Post by harkaransg » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:34 pm

Good article, captures dubstep at this moment in time. Could have expanded abit more on certain areas, but still good. nice one for posting link

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Post by sinc_vision » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 pm

Ashley wrote:
sully_shanks wrote:
boomnoise wrote:My favourite bit is this:

The crowd is young, multicoloured and predominantly male, but there is no hint of aggression. People sip beers but no one seems drunk.

for many different reasons

lol
haha multicoloured wtf!?
hold tight my rainbow people
:lol: :lol: :lol:
"Around him a gaggle of shaven-headed boys have already gathered"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
all the above quotes are jokes. especially the shaven haired bit which i`m finding increasingly true. hold tight my glistening locks crew.
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Post by benj b » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:51 pm

Better it gets broadsheet coverage than not. :?

and I'm pleased they make it clear that it's still all about the music and nothing else.

it is funny how for a supposedly liberal paper, they're amazed that different people from different "cultures" can be in a room together with no problems, like it's unique to this one music and this one place.

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Post by efa » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:43 pm

Big!
The beats are often odd, angular, not just syncopated but complex and irregular; snatches of African chanting will be followed by hip hop samples, or the sound of a call to prayer. Anything goes, as long as it has a driving bassline and is played very, very loudly
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Post by computer rock » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:00 am

People sip beers but no one seems drunk.
think i've been doing this dubstep thing a bit wrong...

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Post by boomnoise » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:43 am

yeah i was surprised no one pickup on the whole beer sipping / not drunk thing earlier on. :P

but yeah, as you point out ben j, the whole left wing paper being surprised at cross cultural raving sits a bit horribly. especially as it's been going on for almost 40 years in london.

and the multicoloured thing sits wrong with me. it's like an exclamation. people of colour and white people! in the same room! having fun! oh my days!

and, i'm sure i'm just being over sensitive in my reading with this one, but that sentence also implies that if you get that there will be trouble. and it overplays the the male stereotype of going out, getting pissed, having a fight, as being normal.

but i guess i haven't been out in those sort of places for so long i forget that that is what goes on weekend in, weekend out all over the country.

but i guess all this goes to serve the point that dubstep (in london) is truly multicultural; the music uniting us all, across race and class and, with the 'not somewhere to pull' thing, across sex(uality) as well. music first. the way it should be.

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