Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

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Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:27 pm

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Amber Trichome » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:37 pm

lol Vex'd and Skrillex in the same sentence!

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by dickman69 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:55 pm

"dubstep"

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:03 pm

rayman612 wrote:"dubstep"

fuck this guy
Right, I get that part, but dubstep proper is admittedly very bizzarre, yeah? The interesting part to me are some of the old references he sites. That is some crazy shit!

It does TOTALLY suck ass when you see shit like this - http://www.dubturbo.com/- From a more philosophical position, however, it is an interesting question. It sort of puts me in the mind of bebop as a genre. When people first played that it was new, different, rule-less and FUN and nobody knew what the fuck it was.

So, yeah, genre-fying sucks and there will always be pop-subGenreHere and I hate that as much in country, jazz and rock as I hate it in electronic music because it seems like "POP" may be like a synonym for "watered-down-appealing to the least common denominator". Not a terribly enlightened statement, but true.

My take on it is: Yes, dubstep IS, in fact, avant-garde musical genius and that is exactly why the Pop-Music-Machine is always stealing from it in an effort to trick people into believing they are still relevant and why there is a built-in disdain for people who ask questions like "How can I make that Skrillex sound?" Because it flies directly IN THE FACE of the underlying principle of, not just dubstep or EDM, that is, we ALL want to hear stuff we HAVEN'T heard before. Sounds that stupefy and confuse us represent that "good shit" we're all looking for. The fact that MASS crowds are listening to Skrillex, in a concert setting no less, blows my mind. Not because I dislike the guys music or anything, but because the accepted definition of what can be called music has changed so vastly in my lifetime. It's nuts. Then I think about all the originators that get mentioned in conversations like this. I can't imagine how AWESOME it would have been hearing that stuff at a club ten or twelve years ago.

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Molzie » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:34 pm

but..

what is dusbtep

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Shum » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:36 pm

dubstep is.

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Post by Molzie » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:38 pm

dubstep.

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Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:53 pm

Molzie wrote:but..

what is dusbtep
Apply Duck Test? :D

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:57 pm

and this is the problem with the world in general.

people trying to teach about a subject they actually know nothing about.

smh.
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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Molzie » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:02 pm

Nevalo wrote:and this is the problem with the world in general.

people trying to teach about a subject they actually know nothing about.

smh.
ima start a youtube channel and teach people about calculus

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:04 pm

Molzie wrote:
Nevalo wrote:and this is the problem with the world in general.

people trying to teach about a subject they actually know nothing about.

smh.
Nevalo, I hope that's not directed my way. I would not presume to educate anyone regarding the definition of dubstep. Certainly not here. :dunce:

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Molzie, I'd watch that.

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:08 pm

Molzie wrote:
Nevalo wrote:and this is the problem with the world in general.

people trying to teach about a subject they actually know nothing about.

smh.
ima start a youtube channel and teach people about calculus
sweet, ill subscribe because i believe you know everything about calculus
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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:22 pm

Incidently,, Nevalo, this mix is really good. Are you going to post more?

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:28 pm

on my SC?

probably, ive had 'new mix coming soon' there for about 6 months so i supposed something will be there soon :lol:
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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by moot0ne » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:03 pm

Yeah, SC. I'll be keeping an ear peeled.

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by _cheef_ » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:24 pm

A tru youtube dub genius; this guy matters. :Q:


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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by seckle » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:58 pm

i stopped at the word "avant garde". its a phrase meant to divide, not unify. this music is for everyone, not some musical hierarchy.

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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by dsprainman » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:39 am

I'd like to get in a bar fight with this guy.
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Re: Is Dubstep Avant Garde Musical Genius?

Post by topmo3 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:25 am

^ he'd fight like a girl
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