El-B or not 2be

grimreaper · Post by **grimreaper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:55 pm

Got a question for all you know-all fans of dubstep music. Considering that el-b is seen as one of the pathfinders of the sound why is it he doesn't produce any dubstep anymore? As far as I know he works with Carl Brown on the el-tuff project. And while I'm here - why do you think Jammin doesn't produce much breakstep anymore - seeing as he more or less invented it? Is it cos there's no money in this?

andythetwig · Post by **andythetwig** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:04 pm

i dunno but that's a REALLY good thread title

walsh · Post by **walsh** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:44 pm

makes uk rap now....

Not in the dubstep music no more.... "it doesnt pay the bills"

Not sure what he has been doing with the el tuff project, but
who cares on here!

[b]racket · Post by **[b]racket** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:44 pm

grimreaper wrote:why do you think Jammin doesn't produce much breakstep anymore - seeing as he more or less invented it? Is it cos there's no money in this?

I think Zinc took a break whilst doing his album and pushing other artists on Bingo...

There is a new Jammin track about at the moment.

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:45 pm

Is that track new? Sounds old to me.

[b]racket · Post by **[b]racket** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:47 pm

New as its the first Jammin release for a while...but you are probably right that its an old track.

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:50 pm

Zed Bias has also been conspicuous by his absence.

I don't really understand it to be honest. There's no reason why in between whoring their asses writing hip hop or whatever they can't do a couple of dub tracks. It's not like these guys are short of studio time.

dq · Post by dq » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:06 pm

Paulie wrote:Zed Bias has also been conspicuous by his absence.

I don't really understand it to be honest. There's no reason why in between whoring their asses writing hip hop or whatever they can't do a couple of dub tracks. It's not like these guys are short of studio time.

Agreed. It's pretty disappointing really. You would hope that their conviction in what they helped create would be a little stronger, regardless of the paycheck.

grimreaper · Post by **grimreaper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:21 pm

WALSH wrote:makes uk rap now....

Not in the dubstep music no more.... "it doesnt pay the bills"

Not sure what he has been doing with the el tuff project, but
who cares on here!

Well - I like dubstep and el-tuff - so am I the only one? But putting this aside - basically then el-b doesn't make stuff cos there's no money. And the same with Zed Bias and Jammin?

protocolx · Post by **protocolx** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:27 pm

money might be a factor when putting out a record,, it dont mean they aint makin beatz.. el-b prob has a tonne of dubs thatll never hit the streets.

just something i thought

geoff · Post by **geoff** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:46 pm

or maybe they just got bored with garage, or making tunes at the same speed all the time.

it is more astounding to me that early d'n'b producers are still making the same music. I mean, how many tracks can you make that sound, to all intents and purposes, exactly the same, before you brain turns to jelly.

reza · Post by **reza** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:47 pm

zed bias is still turning out pure badness...

just a bit more chilled these days

grimreaper · Post by **grimreaper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:50 pm

reza wrote:zed bias is still turning out pure badness...

just a bit more chilled these days

Do you mean like some of the phuturistx type West London style?

reza · Post by **reza** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:56 pm

grimreaper wrote:
reza wrote:zed bias is still turning out pure badness...

just a bit more chilled these days
Do you mean like some of the phuturistx type West London style?

yeah, that's it, the more broken stuff - under the maddslinky name too.

grimreaper · Post by **grimreaper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:00 pm

OK - I thought he was doing some drum n bass as well. I seem to remember him doing stuff for hospital and Bingo.

reza · Post by **reza** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:05 pm

grimreaper wrote:OK - I thought he was doing some drum n bass as well. I seem to remember him doing stuff for hospital and Bingo.

yeah, I think he did a DnB 12" for Bingo and did a broken album for Hospital as Phuturistix. There was also a broken album - 'Make Your Peace' - for Laws Of Motion...

grimreaper · Post by **grimreaper** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:13 pm

So do DJs play this broken stuff with dubstep? I've listened to some of the mixes and quite a bit of it sounds like breakbeat to my ears - it would be nice to hear some proper music again - a bit more musical

reza · Post by **reza** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:16 pm

grimreaper wrote:So do DJs play this broken stuff with dubstep? I've listened to some of the mixes and quite a bit of it sounds like breakbeat to my ears - it would be nice to hear some proper music again - a bit more musical

I don't see why not, I do...

http://www.tempotantrum.co.uk/tt/audio/reza_0505.mp3

[b]racket · Post by **[b]racket** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:45 pm

Zed Bias put his first dnb track out on Hospital. The thing on bingo was Mombasa (i think) by Phuturistix...

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:46 pm

Broken beat's a bit slow to mix in really. Breaks is rubbish these days, totally off that stuff.

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