At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

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At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by Bassf4ce » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:24 am

At what Hz do you cut your sub off at? 30hz-???hz.
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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by sluggy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:00 am

It shouldn't matter in less your 'sub' is a high pitched scream, most subbass's are a sinewave. It is common to low pass at 75-125, but it depends on the rest of your mix and how high you want it. It's music after all...

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Post by Versuz » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:38 am

i guess it would depend on the notes being played + where the sub is peaking... don't follow a set number for anything it's almost different for every tune and sound

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Post by ehbes » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:59 am

Well sines don't have any harmonics so unless your playing higher notes you shouldn't have a problem
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Post by RandoRando » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:57 am

I always feel like some linear phase EQ on a sub at 20hz is doing more good then harm, cause i mean, those subsonic frequencies are just taking up headroom.
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Post by RandoRando » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:57 am

I always feel like some linear phase EQ on a sub at 20hz is doing more good then harm, cause i mean, those subsonic frequencies are just taking up headroom.
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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by sburton84 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:04 pm

RandoRando wrote:I always feel like some linear phase EQ on a sub at 20hz is doing more good then harm, cause i mean, those subsonic frequencies are just taking up headroom.
What subsonic frequencies? A pure sine sub doesn't have any. Other than it's fundamental of course.

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Post by legskeattch » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:23 pm

Bassf4ce wrote:At what Hz do you cut your sub off at? 30hz-???hz.
Depends where your kick is hitting.

If your kick is hitting at 100hz, then roll the Sub off at like 90Hz, this then gives the sub and kick room!

If your kick is hitting at 50hz, then its probably best your kick is side chained to the sub because the kick is definitely in the same frequency band as the sub.

Here is a link to where things should ROUGHLY fit (don't follow the numbers exactly)

http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/le ... _dsktp.jpg

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Post by ehbes » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:33 pm

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Bassf4ce wrote:At what Hz do you cut your sub off at? 30hz-???hz.
Depends where your kick is hitting.

If your kick is hitting at 100hz, then roll the Sub off at like 90Hz, this then gives the sub and kick room!
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Post by legskeattch » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:38 pm

.... Go on ehbrums1, show me up :P

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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by ehbes » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:43 pm

Sine waves have no harmonics.. Therefore if you are actually playing a sub in the "sub area" which we've concluded is between 30-50 hz low passing it will do nothing
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Post by legskeattch » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:48 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:Sine waves have no harmonics.. Therefore if you are actually playing a sub in the "sub area" which we've concluded is between 30-50 hz low passing it will do nothing
Very true, but say hes add a square to a sub or adding some distortion or adding anything that adds harmonics? He didn't specifically saying it was just a sine...

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Post by Today » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:49 pm

i don't cut Hz from my subs
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Post by ehbes » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:51 pm

legskeattch wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:Sine waves have no harmonics.. Therefore if you are actually playing a sub in the "sub area" which we've concluded is between 30-50 hz low passing it will do nothing
Very true, but say hes add a square to a sub or adding some distortion or adding anything that adds harmonics? He didn't specifically saying it was just a sine...
Doing so would make the sub loose power
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Post by legskeattch » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:02 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
legskeattch wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:Sine waves have no harmonics.. Therefore if you are actually playing a sub in the "sub area" which we've concluded is between 30-50 hz low passing it will do nothing
Very true, but say hes add a square to a sub or adding some distortion or adding anything that adds harmonics? He didn't specifically saying it was just a sine...
Doing so would make the sub loose power
I absolutely agree!

Just covering all the angles to help the chap... :W:

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Post by ehbes » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:04 pm

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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by bkwsk » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:15 pm

Today wrote:i don't cut Hz from my subs
You should try rolling off maybe at 28-30Hz on the sub. You're gonna remove frequencies you're not gonna hear on 90%+ of systems and you'll end up having a lot more headroom for the rest of the elements of your mix. Try it sometime.

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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by Almighty Alias » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:13 pm

you cant hear bellow 20Hz, but you sure as fukk can feel it. I try to leave it (for dubstep) unless things start getting muddy. and usually if things get muddy then the sub is only one of the issues (or mistakes) i made along the way.
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Post by bkwsk » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:30 pm

Almighty Alias wrote:you cant hear bellow 20Hz, but you sure as fukk can feel it.
In the appropriate environment, yes (and even that might depend on the age of the listener, how much is he/she used to listening to music in detail, etc). Which is almost never the case.

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Re: At what Hz do you cut your sub off at?

Post by Bassf4ce » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:47 pm

Thanks for the help! Do you guys just use one wave or two with different pitch/octave?
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