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Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 pm

Okay, I have some Korg M1 samples, but they are off centre. They are panned ever so slightly to the left, but when i try and correct them with right pan it doesnt sound right.

I think the best solution is to mono then apply some effects to make it stereo again but I dont know the best way around this.

Can someone help?

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by ehbes » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:26 pm

export it in mono and then re-import ?
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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by Kilo Graham » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:29 pm

just the lower or higher notes? pianos are often double microphoned in stereo

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:39 pm

If i re-import as mono, how can i then get it back into stereo?


Its lower and higher, I low and high passed it, then ran it through the stereo analyser.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by ehbes » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:40 pm

well you can add stereo effects like you said
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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:45 pm

But if i add chorus or stereo widener it just sounds fake and awful!

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by ehbes » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:49 pm

import mono - duplicate- export - stereo
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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by Kilo Graham » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:07 pm

legskeattch wrote:But if i add chorus or stereo widener it just sounds fake and awful!
did you read the post I made there? If you want it to sound real it needs to be slightly panned that way to separate the left and right hands.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Kilo Graham wrote:
legskeattch wrote:But if i add chorus or stereo widener it just sounds fake and awful!
did you read the post I made there? If you want it to sound real it needs to be slightly panned that way to separate the left and right hands.

Sorry I misread it... Its supposed to sound a bit off centre?

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by Kilo Graham » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:37 pm

legskeattch wrote:
Kilo Graham wrote:
legskeattch wrote:But if i add chorus or stereo widener it just sounds fake and awful!
did you read the post I made there? If you want it to sound real it needs to be slightly panned that way to separate the left and right hands.

Sorry I misread it... Its supposed to sound a bit off centre?
yes, play the lower and the higher notes and you'll hopefully see a different panning.

EDIT: Also higher notes will probably tend left, which is why I suggested playing some lower notes to see if the panning changes

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by mitchAUS » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:43 am

ehbrums1 wrote:import mono - duplicate- export - stereo
Exporting duplicate mono Chanel's to stero doesn't make it true stereo. I would keep it in mono then add a stereo reverb, probably the most natural soundin way to do it.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:27 am

Stereo reverb or duplicate and pan slightly left and right.
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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by RmoniK » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:15 pm

just pan them to the right? I'm not getting the problem here. panning a stereo channel is really just balancing the left and right channel so that's exactly what you need.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:42 am

It was as one of the guys above said... low notes left, high notes right...

if you pan your sending one more the other way.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by RmoniK » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:09 am

Well then it shouldn't really be that much of a problem ( i thought you were gonna use only high notes or something)

If you're using the entire piano, just leave it as it is, there is no artificial method for creating stereo width that will work as well as double mic'ing.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by JBE » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:22 am

Does this slight off centered sound make it unuseable? Unless they are playing entirely left or entirely right then I don't see it really causing much of an issue.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by legskeattch » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:34 am

Not unusable just irritating ha

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by RmoniK » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:06 pm

I doubt you'll notice it in the mix.

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Re: Piano off Centre

Post by Kilo Graham » Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:53 pm

it will sound right in the final mix, I bet!

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