Heavy(er) Wop Bass Help

[One Zero Three]

Hey guys, im looking to make a bass similar to the the one in this song at 3:40. The wop-like one. I can hear its layered and can make the other parts however am having a hard time with the top part of it. Im using Massive and Logic Pro 9. I bought SugarBytes WOW as well. Any help would be appreciated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUPoSzZXxo

3:40 in this song. Songs alright in my opinion.

[Hircine]

growl thread.

[johnnyng]

1. Put one of your oscillators on modern talking and modulate the wavetable position using an envelope to taste, maybe layer with a saw for harmonics and a sin sub for power.
2. Add a bit of classic tube distortion to get things gritty.
3. I don't really know how you couldn't hear that, it's pretty much the same sound in every bro track give or take a few settings. I could understand if you are trying to understand more complex sounds, but that is a simple sound to make that could be figured out with 20 mins of fiddling within massive by yourself. And you can hear modern talking in that bass from a mile away. Not to be condescending or anything, you'll learn infinitely more just messing with settings for awhile and figuring it out on your own. The sound there doesn't even sound resampled, so I wouldn't worry about that for that particular sound.

4. If youre gonna make bro, at least come up with your own sound within it. The first wave of that shit was pretty enjoyable but after that its just turned into the production equivalent of wanking on a guitar and a whole bunch of teen satrianis in guitar center. The trend will die out, why chase it? Production and music in general shouldn't be about getting an ego boost / pussy / fame etc which is what most of the 2nd and 3rd wave of this sound and its producers is turning into. Not to mention half of the pussy that has come to dubstep since skrillex isn't even legal so why do it to impress them? Cougars are where its at anyways bruvh, real talk.
5. I am aware this has turned into a sort of rant. I guess its tiring seeing the same threads that all really equates to "spoon feed me X formula to sound like X person so I can hop on X trend". I have nothing against brostep as far as the sound goes, some of it is really good, but a lot of it is not, especially as of late.
6. I think wub had a post sometime back about "if you want to make X genre, stop listening to X genre for inspiration, and take it from elsewhere. When dubstep first came out, it wasn't based on dubstep. It was a loose genre tag with a wide scope of interpretations.
7. If you want to find a new sound, try slowing down/speeding up another genre and take parts and mash it with other genres and see how it turns out. I'm pretty sure that is how the whole dungeon sound came about. A lot of that sounds like half-step neuro.

8. If you really want to learn and aren't doing this to hop the trend, do everything yourself, and if you simply cannot figure it out, at least tell people WHAT you've already done (what types of oscillators/modulations/fx-chains/etc...people will be much more inclined to help rather than "uh, I have massive and bought the wow filter." People will only help you as much as you help yourself, feel me?

9. Last tip, and I really shouldn't tell you this, you don't deserve it because its something you'd learn along the path of sound design fuckery. When you use that wow filter....don't simple LFO it and expect it to sound like X person's growls. A lot of the more complex growls that have used wow filter have drawn in the cutoff modulation and vowel selection by hand in whatever daw you are using. Staccato notes also help with the growl sound. Slight (and I mean slight) chorus can compliment a growl nicely. Split freqs if you want it to be cleaner (chorus the mids only).

10. Just be thankful. I shouldn't have helped you as lazy as your post was. All this, and I'm in a piss poor mood and hungry like you wouldnt believe. If you use these tips, I expect a few tv dinners as a payment when you become the "next big ting".

[Social Chaos]

try slowing down/speeding up another genre and take parts and mash it with other genres and see how it turns out. I'm pretty sure that is how the whole dungeon sound came about. A lot of that sounds like half-step neuro.

This is the best advice ever.

My advice is - Use Fm8 it's alot more diverse if you learn how to use it, i'm still new to Producing, and it's a pain but i enjoy it.
Massive is kewl too ;P

[Hircine]

try slowing down/speeding up another genre and take parts and mash it with other genres and see how it turns out. I'm pretty sure that is how the whole dungeon sound came about. A lot of that sounds like half-step neuro.

This is the best advice ever.

My advice is - Use Fm8 it's alot more diverse if you learn how to use it, i'm still new to Producing, and it's a pain but i enjoy it.
Massive is kewl too ;P

[Zkeeto]

Damn Johnnyng! you said that well. good on ya. Shit drives me crazy too