Confused by Israel Situation

[garethom]

I know a lot of people on here are against basically everything Israel does, and that's a fair opinion.

What do you suggest is done about it? Say if you can make a decision about what happens to Israel now, and it'll happen, what would you do? With reasons please.

I just can't work out an outcome that wouldn't see tonnes of people being displaced/getting killed.

[cryptical]

yay another one of these threads hoorah
kill em all

[hugh]

send in an army of clowns to defuse the situation via joviality

works 50% of the time, every time

[nowaysj]

I've got no solution. I don't think anybody does. That's why it is a clusterfuck.

Reality is you've got a sociopathic nuclear armed nation that has no respect for human life. How to deal with that?

[deadly_habit]

Let the region sort itself out without any foreign intervention.

[wilson]

Ceasefire for a fucking start.

[mIrReN]

give them a country between pakistan and India


2 international conflicts in 1 decision

or;

[Genevieve]

This has seriously turned into the most pathetic situation of the modern era. Israel is like the fourth reich for palestinians, but Hamas hates Palestinians too so they bomb Israel (rather than lead by example) to provoke them and kill more Palestinians.

I'm totally done with it. The west should get the fuck out of their affairs. It's their business. And I hope it can be solved with as little bloodshed as possible, but let the Middle East figure their affairs out and we need to stop trying to control both sides.

I still get sad like I used to, but after these recent events I'm more frustrated and disgusted and exhausted by it more than anything

[noam]

Reality is you've got a sociopathic nuclear armed nation that has no respect for human life. How to deal with that?

ye fuck, what to do....

[hugh]

they're all rlly dumb innit gen

[garethom]

This has seriously turned into the most pathetic situation of the modern era. Israel is like the fourth reich for palestinians, but Hamas hates Palestinians too so they send so they bomb Israel (rather than lead by example) to provoke Israel to kill more Palestinians.

This. I can't believe there are people out there that don't think Israel should react to missile attacks, but everything Israel does (right or wrong) just provokes more hatred their way.

Seems the only solution is to just stick every Israeli on a ship, including millions of people that were born into a internationally recognised state of Israel, and move them elsewhere, which isn't on, or just remove everyone who hates Israel from the region.

Fucked.

yay another one of these threads hoorah
kill em all

You could've felt free not to open the thread and post mate. Thanks.

[hugh]

if only Mulan was a Palestinian woman living today she could fix everything

[mIrReN]

Reality is you've got a sociopathic nuclear armed nation that has no respect for human life. How to deal with that?

ye fuck, what to do....

lol hadn't read that yet


nowaysj, which nation are you implying
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_st ... ar_weapons

?

[dubfordessert]

israel is not going to stop hamas rockets or a militant response to its oppression of palestinians by oppressing them more.

ceasefire. stop and reversal of illegal settlements/land grabs and evictions of palestinians, economic blockades and movement restrictions

very least it needs to do. it should also allow the recognition of palestine as an observing non-member state by the UN without retaliation because FFS israel it won't hurt. it won't though.

what can other countries do? nothing, because the united states unconditionally supports israel. even if the entire rest of the world voted for sanctions against israel it would have no effect.

[cryptical]

yay another one of these threads hoorah
kill em all

You could've felt free not to open the thread and post mate. Thanks.

you made me feel bad
i'll be gone

[garethom]

reversal of illegal settlements/land grabs

To what extent? I always get a bit mixed up with who took what or who gave up what around Israel and the middle east, but going back some years now, and like I say, many people have been born and grew up Israeli in those areas. Is forcibly moving people that had absolutely no say in the formation of those areas on a sound thing to do?

CONFUSION.

[noam]

Israel wont do that because they simply want that land, and that region to themselves

the situation won't resolve peacefully, the land is sacred, both sides feel they have a god-given right to live there

its fucked because the solution is win/leave/die for any party involved

i cant see an avenue for peace

[butter_man]

Round up the people causing the problem, execute them. Rinse and repeat the world over.

Tell them all to play fair or get their arse lynched by those who opppse war.

[garethom]

its fucked because the solution is win/leave/die for any party involved

i cant see an avenue for peace

this

[noam]

but this is from someone with little to no real insight into the situation

the people who can influence events there, should have some more feasible solutions