is there a way to select only a portion of a sample in logic

[Eat Bass]

in ableton you can select a portion of the clip to use and then like copy and paste it to a new audio track without actually chopping the original audio. can you do this in logic? i've been searching if you can but i cant find any info on it. any help?

[Depone]

Not sure there is. I just chop via scissors and hold down option while dragging to copy

[lloydy]

Crosshair tool,read about it.The most multifunctional tool in logic and a very simple to use.

[lloydy]

Well its actually called the marquee tool lol.Old habbits die hard!
Anyway heres a vid

[bouncingfish]

^What he said.

[lloydy]

^what he said that i said.

[Eat Bass]

thanks loyd! thats exactly what i was looking for. marque tool, then option drag and it automatically copies the selection without actually clipping the sample. perfect!

i've been watching all these ableton videos lately and its been making me want to switch but i dont even know logic in and out yet so im trying to familiarize myself a bit more so i can improve my workflow. the main thing thats killing me right now is my workflow. i can take two hours on something that should of taken me 20 minutes and then my brain gets all foggy and i lose motivation and creativity.

[lloydy]

the main thing thats killing me right now is my workflow. i can take two hours on something that should of taken me 20 minutes and then my brain gets all foggy and i lose motivation and creativity.

Workflow is something that comes with learning the daw,switching daws won't really help your workflow as you are the one that makes or breaks it.
What sort of things are taking you time?If my memory serves me right you have been a user for quite some time so learning the basic use of tools you should have nailed by now surely?
Also there are plenty of tutorials online for logic and probably one of the best user forums out of all the daws so really for me it sounds like your slowing yourself down!
Google function son,works wonders
One thing though if your looking for the typical "produce edm" tutorials then no there isn't a lot for logic but you can pick up tips from most videos anyway because most subjects covered are near enough universal.

[Eat Bass]

the main thing thats killing me right now is my workflow. i can take two hours on something that should of taken me 20 minutes and then my brain gets all foggy and i lose motivation and creativity.

Workflow is something that comes with learning the daw,switching daws won't really help your workflow as you are the one that makes or breaks it.
What sort of things are taking you time?If my memory serves me right you have been a user for quite some time so learning the basic use of tools you should have nailed by now surely?
Also there are plenty of tutorials online for logic and probably one of the best user forums out of all the daws so really for me it sounds like your slowing yourself down!
Google function son,works wonders
One thing though if your looking for the typical "produce edm" tutorials then no there isn't a lot for logic but you can pick up tips from most videos anyway because most subjects covered are near enough universal.

Just things like the way resampling works and processing in parallel with multiple busses then all leading out to one output but still keeping the original signal mixed in. It just takes a while setting up busses. In ableton it's like you slap a rack down and insert the fx you want on each signal path. Seems quick and easy.

And iv been a logic user for a little under a year so I can make my way around the program but I'm constantly finding out new things. And I also need to still learn a lot more keyboard shortcuts as I only use a select handful. So really I am slowing myself down I just need to keep practicing and improve my workflow.

I think the reason ableton seems to appeal to me is because I'm watching producers do the same things I am like resampling and certain layering techniques and freq splitting. I don't really find many videos for logic where i can steal workflow Ideas using the techniques like I just said.

[Sharmaji]

resampling = bounce-in-place. make a key command for it (i use commmand-B). keep track of versions by using the extension _bip. not uncommon for me to have a piece of audio that's something like "lead.bip_bip_bip_bip_bip"

OR

convert to sampler track, open the edit window, edit the audio in the sample editor. save the patch. done.

for drum layers, if you sequence in audio, just use "drum replacement/doubling" to create corresponding midi and insert whatever plugin you use.

create a template with a ton of busses, use that all the time. logic handles sends/returns quite brilliantly i think; create a send, it returns on the corresponding aux. just use the aux. logic's audio engine is really amazingly efficient; my current mix session autoload opens up with 256 audio tracks and 32 busses, including a bunch of parallel busses, compression subgroups, etc-- and it still moves through a session really, really easily.

Dave (aka SFLogicNinja's) tutorials are fantastic on youtube.

ableton is great for performance but i find sequencing in it a slow, cumbersome nightmare.

It's really easy for people to get their heads up their own asses in logic-- i get sent sessions to mix all the time that have a ton of possibilities and details, but very few decisions made. make a sound, bounce-in-place, move on, save as another version. when in doubt, KEEP IT SIMPLE.

[lloydy]

Just things like the way resampling works and processing in parallel with multiple busses then all leading out to one output but still keeping the original signal mixed in. It just takes a while setting up busses. In ableton it's like you slap a rack down and insert the fx you want on each signal path. Seems quick and easy.

Resampling you have the bounce in place function which is very very simple,just right click on the the region you want to bounce down and select bounce in place.This is logic 9 only i think so if you have an earlier version not so sure it's there but it makes resampling a very simple process.Also if you are resampling into a sampler like kontakt all you need to do is drag audio files from the audio bin into your sampler so the way logic handles audio is very simple and efficient.
Now for busses i think i sent you my template,just set a a fuck load up in a template.The template i sent to you had 25 auxiliary channels(busses)set up.I believe it was 10 set up for synths,10 for drums and 5 for master effects.
Setting up like this cuts workflow time down considerably even though creating aux's isn't an overbearing task anyway.
Also mixing signals in is purely send levels or fader volumes!If you right click the send that is on your original source channel it gives you a choice for pre or post fader.This here is your friend because you can spend ages getting the volumes for you process channels correct and then fuck it all up by changing the source track volume so if you set t to pre fader any volume changes you make won't affect you parallel busses!Just a tip

And iv been a logic user for a little under a year so I can make my way around the program but I'm constantly finding out new things. And I also need to still learn a lot more keyboard shortcuts as I only use a select handful. So really I am slowing myself down I just need to keep practicing and improve my workflow.

Keyboard shorcuts are a must but they are not a deal breaker,every programme known to man has shortcuts but moving to ableton won't cure this as it will have its own shortcuts so you will be straight back where you started
I've always said practice makes perfect,especially when learning a daw.I used to shit myself at the thought of using the environment but now am pretty comfortable using it.

I think the reason ableton seems to appeal to me is because I'm watching producers do the same things I am like resampling and certain layering techniques and freq splitting. I don't really find many videos for logic where i can steal workflow Ideas using the techniques like I just said.

Yeah but the techniques are pretty universal as i said before.Frequency splitting is so so simple in logic,i believe mr bill posted a video where he uses a reverse phase technique in Live to frequency split.I followed the tutorial in logic and had it 100% how he did,that was quite a complicated technique but it was as simple in logic as it was in Live.
Parallel processing is simple in any daw you just need to learn to use busses and sends to accomplish the tasks you set out for.
When you say layering how do you mean?Layering in logic is again a very very simple task.Layer in audio or layer in midi even down to layering effects,it is all in the way you use the tracks and the audio signal route.

[lloydy]

Fuck you sharm that just took me ages lol

[Eat Bass]

thanks sharm and lloyd. appreciate the detailed response. but yeah i guess i will just keep at it with logic.

also, its not that i dont know how to resample or freq split in logic. everything just seems to take me a long time. im looking to optimize my workflow and i just cant seem to find a good source of videos or things of that nature to help me out.

also, how do you guys edit audio in a non destructive way? i hate that logic is so destructive. for instance, if i convert an audio file to midi, it deletes that audio file and replaces it with the midi. how can i make it so logic saves a new one only in my project file, no where else and leaves the original alone?

[lloydy]

thanks sharm and lloyd. appreciate the detailed response. but yeah i guess i will just keep at it with logic.

also, its not that i dont know how to resample or freq split in logic. everything just seems to take me a long time. im looking to optimize my workflow and i just cant seem to find a good source of videos or things of that nature to help me out.

also, how do you guys edit audio in a non destructive way? i hate that logic is so destructive. for instance, if i convert an audio file to midi, it deletes that audio file and replaces it with the midi. how can i make it so logic saves a new one only in my project file, no where else and leaves the original alone?

Templates are for optimising your workflow so that is the answer.
I'm a bit confused as to why you would want to turn audio into midi.Pretty sure the only way is audio to score but then the material needs to be mono not poly or it won't work properly.Also you have the audio to midi groove which is purely for getting timing information from audio(drums).
Also when you use these sort of functions the original audio file should still be in you audio bin.Logic will always prompt if it is a destructive edit,if logic doesn't prompt look in you audio bin and you should find original in there.
I'm still confused as to why you would want to turn audio to midi so if you can shed some light i(or sharm if i'm not quick enough)may be able to help!
I mean if your bouncing down because you want to use a sound you have made in a sampler then sharm nailed it with the convert to sampler instrument.Again right click or crtl click on mac and select convert to new sampler track if you want to use exs24 or bounce in place and drag from audio bin in to kontakt's instrument area.

[lloydy]

Edit=This is the video i meant about frequency splitting using phase.I watched this and worked it out in logic,once you work how to reverse phase in logic the technique is exactly the same.I done this a long time ago but pretty sure the reverse phase function in logic is in the sample editor window!