FL submix problem

[Benji]

For some reason whenever I route my drums to a bus they sound like they're bring compressed to an extreme degree, I've tried fiddling with some settings and routing the tracks with no effects on them and it always sounds like that. It's even been fine in other projects so I have no idea what the deal is, if anyone has any suggestions that'd be nice, cheers

[mthrfnk]

Are you clipping the buss?

[Benji]

I wish it was that, but nope

[fragments]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but when reading a huge thread about gain staging in digital on gearslutz several (apparently well respected users) said that digital meters don't always read clipping in DAWs. *shrug*

Just as an example...you might be clipping inside a VST on one of the individual drum tracks and neither the bus nor the channel meters are reading the clipping. Trust your ears, not the meters. Try freezing VSTs on the drum channels one at a time and see what happens.

Have you tried turn all the drums sent to the bus down, probably worth a shot. FL Studio has unlimited history anyway...or just don't save it if this doesn't work.

[Benji]

Edit: I thought I'd solved it but I in fact had not, but the help is much appreciated guys, cheers

[Benji]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but when reading a huge thread about gain staging in digital on gearslutz several (apparently well respected users) said that digital meters don't always read clipping in DAWs. *shrug*

Just as an example...you might be clipping inside a VST on one of the individual drum tracks and neither the bus nor the channel meters are reading the clipping. Trust your ears, not the meters. Try freezing VSTs on the drum channels one at a time and see what happens.

Have you tried turn all the drums sent to the bus down, probably worth a shot. FL Studio has unlimited history anyway...or just don't save it if this doesn't work.

I gave that a try but it seems to be an issue with the routing, even if I just link the kick which peaks at -12db to any spare mixer channel I get this effect

[Triphosphate]

For some reason whenever I route my drums to a bus they sound like they're bring compressed to an extreme degree, I've tried fiddling with some settings and routing the tracks with no effects on them and it always sounds like that. It's even been fine in other projects so I have no idea what the deal is, if anyone has any suggestions that'd be nice, cheers

Just a hunch, but are the drums still being routed to the master so you're getting double the signal? I can't think of anything else.

[Augment]

^Hahaha, same as I was thinking, it's defo your problem

[fragments]

For some reason whenever I route my drums to a bus they sound like they're bring compressed to an extreme degree, I've tried fiddling with some settings and routing the tracks with no effects on them and it always sounds like that. It's even been fine in other projects so I have no idea what the deal is, if anyone has any suggestions that'd be nice, cheers

Just a hunch, but are the drums still being routed to the master so you're getting double the signal? I can't think of anything else.

Shit I'm dull today. I kept thinking something along those lines, but the thought would not fucking come together in my head.

[Benji]

Just a hunch, but are the drums still being routed to the master so you're getting double the signal? I can't think of anything else.

Yesyesyesyes that was it, thanks man. I'm glad it was my bad and not a crazy software issue

[mthrfnk]

Just a hunch, but are the drums still being routed to the master so you're getting double the signal? I can't think of anything else.

Yesyesyesyes that was it, thanks man. I'm glad it was my bad and not a crazy software issue

Oh looool. I remember way back when I did this.

It's annoying when you've routed something by accident and you have to go through all your channels to find out what you've mis-routed.

[Triphosphate]

Just a hunch, but are the drums still being routed to the master so you're getting double the signal? I can't think of anything else.

Yesyesyesyes that was it, thanks man. I'm glad it was my bad and not a crazy software issue

Awesome! This happens to me at least a couple times a month.

[legend4ry]

How are you bussing?

Are you going right click > Route to this track only (on the arrow up) or are you just bleed signal into the channel?

If it is the latter - if you have compression on the non-buss channel you WILL get a weird, peaking-like sound and sometimes you just get that anyway.


........Just realised it was answered above haha.

[Benji]

How are you bussing?

Are you going right click > Route to this track only (on the arrow up) or are you just bleed signal into the channel?

If it is the latter - if you have compression on the non-buss channel you WILL get a weird, peaking-like sound and sometimes you just get that anyway.


........Just realised it was answered above haha.

I was literally just clicking the little 'enable send' button without disabling the master send. Ultra face palm

[legend4ry]

How are you bussing?

Are you going right click > Route to this track only (on the arrow up) or are you just bleed signal into the channel?

If it is the latter - if you have compression on the non-buss channel you WILL get a weird, peaking-like sound and sometimes you just get that anyway.


........Just realised it was answered above haha.

I was literally just clicking the little 'enable send' button without disabling the master send. Ultra face palm

Its actually one of those things what don't even make logical sense if you don't know.
I wouldn't worry too much about it !

You can bypass this by using FL Send, I believe too .