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let's talk about 'PADS' snh

Post by hubb » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:50 pm

So, what's your favourite use of a pad in a song?

Is it gorgeous and lush or dissonant, detuned and dark?

When do you think was the first time a pad was used and what does the term even mean?

I suppose machines like melotrons where among the first types and that a pad most of the time is a poly synth with a long attack, taking it's cue from a sound of a choir, violins and other bow instruments (like a melotron), but there might be more to it?

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Post by MPathy » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:23 pm

The first pad was used in 1702 by an american bruv called David Pad.

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Post by wolf89 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:24 pm

Sory but no a mellotron was not a polysynth that took cues from those sounds. It was an electro mechanical sampler of sorts that used tape with recordings of those sounds on that played when you pressed the keys.

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Post by dickman69 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

i steal them from 80s tv shows & put them in a sampler
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Post by Jizz » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:30 pm

best pads are the ones from Stone in Focus

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Post by jaydot » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:45 pm

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Post by hubb » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:45 pm

@wolf, I didn't write it properly but now it's edited :dunce: .
I know a melotron is like a 'sampler', I meant the first 'pad - sound' conceptually.
A melotron is so cool- It's like a steampunk padmachine :6:

Good shout raymond - probably the same approach here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1K9H7kPCe4
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In a certain mood, definitely a contender.

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Post by Brothulhu » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:59 pm

I like dark pads I guess. Normally stretch a violin sample of bounce one from Sakura, stretch it, maybe reverse it, gate it, add delay/reverb and then combine a gated and non gated version together so it has movement
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Post by hubb » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:02 pm

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Post by SunkLo » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:13 pm

Brothulhu wrote:combine a gated and non gated version together so it has movement
Good idea this.

Something I like to do is take a keyboard part and program a midi part that mimics the main part but is 4-8x faster. Then bounce out that audio and paulstretch it back out to the same length as the main part.


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Post by Brothulhu » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:15 pm

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Brothulhu wrote:combine a gated and non gated version together so it has movement
Good idea this.
You don't have to bounce it either, if you put the gate + effects on a send you can automate the dry/wet giving even more variation
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Post by hubb » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:31 pm

Nice one.

Yeah paulstretch is dope. Also tuning recordings in melodyne. When you have those two progs there's almost no limits to what can become a pad.
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Post by Soul_Of_Seun » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:48 pm

I love the way pads are utilized in Downtempo, especially artists like Boards of Canada. Kryptic Minds always have lush and/or dark sounding pads. Sometimes I like to layer 2 different pads, one that sounds more airy/breathy and one that sounds like the string section in a classical orchestra. Makes for an interesting sound.
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Post by test_recordings » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:25 am

I normally use them to make the atmosphere and 'air' of a track, bare low in the mix and all wet
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Post by bouncingfish » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:58 pm

i like hipassing them(the pads) quite high and then use quite high notes, put them in he back of the mix and play them along with My basses. :)
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Post by hubb » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:50 pm

Interesting idea. I do the 'opposite' from time to time and play pads so low they come closer to bass sounds. Layering is great.
Have you got an example or a soundcloud or something?
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Post by Brothulhu » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:09 pm

hubb wrote:Interesting idea. I do the 'opposite' from time to time and play pads so low they come closer to bass sounds. Layering is great.
Have you got an example or a soundcloud or something?
I like mine low but if you run them too low you have to cut them to allow your sub to breathe
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Post by societyloser1 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:02 pm

A pad without some saturation and some 'analog' noise/field recording on it, doesn't really cut it for me!
Field recordings with lots of reverb + some subtle modulated pad is the key to my heart!

Oh yeah... And frequency panning is the shit for pads!
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Post by hubb » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:14 pm

@ Brothulhu
Yeah.. I meant I'll sometimes make a bass sound out of a pad.

A pad without some saturation and some 'analog' noise/field recording on it, doesn't really cut it for me!
Field recordings with lots of reverb + some subtle modulated pad is the key to my heart!

Oh yeah... And frequency panning is the shit for pads!
Definitely. I usually find some fx'y recording with some personality/character and then pitch it to the nearest clean note in melodyne and then build a scale from that note. If it's a three note chord I would probably use different 'instruments'/layers for each note and then put that thing back in a sampler.
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