Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

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Dizzo
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Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by Dizzo » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:50 am

In my computer music class my professor always mentions that you should probably put reverb on every single thing - you dont have to but the synths just make them so dry that its incredibly unrealistic to have absolutely no other sound or small echo or something in your mix and reverb fixes that. Ive never really thought of this so ive been trying it out at home and im having a tough time picking out a certain reverb unit that works best for me.

I use logic pro 9 at home and reason 5 at school so i cant transfer anything but knowledge. Theres like 6 different units in logic and ive only ever really used one (and thats purely because it has the most presets to choose from) and thats the space designer. Are there any logic users that have a good reverb strategy that they could share? Or a certain reverb plugin that they would recommend?
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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by LUNCHPADDLE » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:36 am

i think its less about the reverb you use and more about HOW you use it..
i agree with your professor, i put reverb on nearly everything just to remove that stale dry feeling and create a bit of motion underneath/within the spaces in the mix..

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i just use the stock 'fruity reverb 2' in FL Studio, but i usually make the room size as large and round as possible, leave the dry level at about 80% and put the wet level between 50% and 70% - combined with a bit of an eq to remove the glittery wash off the end of the snares and hats in particular, i find this adds a nice dimension to the sounds i use it on..

using parallel processing on your drums (kicks excluded) with a TINY bit of delay and a nice chunk of reverb really brings out a new dimension within your beats.

look up parallel processing/ny compression/mixed bus compression (theyre all the same thing) and learn that if you havent already.

hope this helps.. :)

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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by Dizzo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:48 am

Ive used fruity loops before and what ive noticed is that its really user friendly and also very visual friendly. The thing is is that theres like 6 different reverb plugins (all with different names like platinumverb or goldverb) and i dont know why theres so many different ones. Like does each one do reverb differently? Another thing is when i used to use FL the visuals really helped out and logic doesnt have as good of visuals so im having a hard time learning without them. The real big thing though is that i just dont know which reverb to use (and why i should use it).
LUNCHPADDLE wrote:using parallel processing on your drums (kicks excluded) with a TINY bit of delay and a nice chunk of reverb really brings out a new dimension within your beats.

look up parallel processing/ny compression/mixed bus compression (theyre all the same thing) and learn that if you havent already.

hope this helps.. :)
And i might have heard of parallel processing processing before but i dont have any knowledge about it. Ill dig deeper into that and watch some youtube stuff and talk to my professor.

I might be wrong here but isnt that where you sidechain drums to a compressor so whatever it is kinda dips down and makes room for the kick?
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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by LUNCHPADDLE » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:28 am

Stargazer wrote:Ive used fruity loops before and what ive noticed is that its really user friendly and also very visual friendly. The thing is is that theres like 6 different reverb plugins (all with different names like platinumverb or goldverb) and i dont know why theres so many different ones. Like does each one do reverb differently? Another thing is when i used to use FL the visuals really helped out and logic doesnt have as good of visuals so im having a hard time learning without them. The real big thing though is that i just dont know which reverb to use (and why i should use it).


And i might have heard of parallel processing processing before but i dont have any knowledge about it. Ill dig deeper into that and watch some youtube stuff and talk to my professor.

I might be wrong here but isnt that where you sidechain drums to a compressor so whatever it is kinda dips down and makes room for the kick?
^ youre thinking of sidechain compression. (something else you should definitely learn) but its not the same as parallel processing..

but yeah, parallel processing adds dimensions to your drums by having them all (excluding kicks - the reason being that reverb and delay on heavy bass sounds is not something you USUALLY want) running through a wet AND dry channel on your mixer and then running those wet and dry channels together through a 'drums master' channel..
the dry channel is USUALLY set to 90% - 100% volume and the wet channel is usually 30% to 50% volume.
the effect you get is that you can have the fx on your drums layered under the original dry drum sounds which means you maintain the punch and clarity of your drums while having the extra tail/dimensions washing off the beat underneath. it gives a nice extra addition to the space between the samples in your beat and makes your drums sound more professional and full rather than dry and dull.

you can also sidechain your dry kicks to the parallel processing wet drums channel to cut through the fx tails on there for some extra funkery.. :P

just gives a lot of depth and adds movement/groove to your tunes. :D

good luck man! hope ive been of some help!

and yeah man, i love the visual element to FL studio. imho it makes it a LITTLE bit more fun and you can SEE the visual representation of what youre hearing, making it easier to gauge what youre doing as you use your plugins more and more down the line..

i usually have 'fruity delay 2' with just the cutoff set to 50% and 'fruity reverb 2' with the wet slider around 60% and the room size as large and round as possible.. thats just as my standard personal preference, but experimenting yourself is half the fun imho ;)

theres no set rule in regards to what fx/levels you use and it comes down to/depends on the overall feel of the tune...

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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by Dizzo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:42 am

Alright i will without a doubt look into that because that sounds like it will seriously help out my drums because a lot of my drum do sound really dry and dull
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Id agree with the visuals it is really cool to actually see what youre hearing. I guess in the meantime ill just keep using the "space designer" in logic. its kinda got a bit of a visual but it has LOADS of presets so i ill just continue to take those and kinda tweak em. At my level thats probably just the smartest thing to do - that way im not diving in head first
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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by LUNCHPADDLE » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:08 am

man, the EXACT thing you wanna do IS be diving in head first!! get amongst it bro!! ;)

hope that info isnt too daunting!! watch some youtube tutorials and youll have it down in no time.

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Re: Any certain recommendations on Logic Pro's reverb

Post by PillowFight » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:33 am

Space Designer is insane. The possibilities are limitless. It has a really muddy low end (as most reverbs do) so I usually apply a high pass at ~300hz on the FX chain and apply it to the sound I want using a send bus.

For percussion and such, I use dryer "plate" settings and tweak them to taste, and I try to put the send for that reverb on all my percussion (even the kick) to taste. It's really important to have the HPF on this reverb.

For other stuff like synths/atmos/FX shots etc. I try to go through every single setting to see which one sounds best, but often I stick to a hall reverb, apply a HPF, and maybe boost a few desired frequencies. Tweaking a reverb preset is REALLY splitting hairs, and the end result almost always causes more damage than just having the right preset to begin with

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