My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

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My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by R3b_Official » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:27 am

When i first started listening to dubstep, i was in love with these guys, still am. For about a year now ive been trying to figure out how they did some of there old sort of style wobble/growl and instead of making everything complicated and doing 10 million effect chains ive state down thought about the sound inside massive first.

Just messing around, and pulling ideas from past threads and interviews ive think got the actual sound in most other there tunes. Ill post examples ive made and if anyones interested ill give them my project file and patch. But the basic things ive done with one of the patches was use the wave table Disto, daft filter, the usual ringmod/phaser, unison to 8, no insert, phaser fx, a dimension expander, and lastly some eq adjustments.

This is the basic sense of the patch but there is a shit ton of modulation! Plus 4 macros to change on either modulated by an Envelope or performer which has two different set ups. All of these other things is what makes the patch. My soundcloud demo's are pretty shitty but if you listen very clarefully you can sort of hear the general sound in some tunes im going to post further down.

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But yeah its very faint but you can sort of hear the sound a bit. That old style wobble/growl all these dudes are known for.
I didnt try to resample yet but thats the next key to this. Anyone wants the wavs of this and go to resamples these, just ask as always :W:

Here are the links to a lot of their tunes with the wobble/growl thing in concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjUJv7yMXg (0:38)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFsZQGx7aoc (2:45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqy3_zhhZLA (1:23) can clearly here massive in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjUJv7yMXg (0:33)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kT2YRQLQfQ (1:00)
(1:01)
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(0:28)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlaAhikR4Rg (0:42)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0IwsK5MDsM (1:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHTfz-CHlsI (3:11)

Like always any help towards this is much appreciated, think we would all know how this is done. Not from a copying aspect but as learning and branching out to make our own sounds. :w:

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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:27 am

Hey man, those sounds are a good base sound, with FX like small delays, phasers etc they will sound even better.

I don't usually post but I used to struggle a lot with that kinda sound, I make reeses now but I'm pretty happy with this robot sound I made using a really basic saw reese that I made in 3oscx I think or massive? Can't recall. It has a real metal sound to it. Kinda like Datsik and Excision but more realistic metal, I haven't re-sampled it much I just twisted the wave spacing in the FL granulizer and then played with the pitch in the INS tab, the pitch LFO and the grain spacing in the granulizer.

What do you think? You may not like it, taste is taste.

Forgive the clip I whipped it up in around a minute to show it in context with the drums :)

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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by R3b_Official » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:42 am

axolotl-dubstep wrote:Hey man, those sounds are a good base sound, with FX like small delays, phasers etc they will sound even better.

I don't usually post but I used to struggle a lot with that kinda sound, I make reeses now but I'm pretty happy with this robot sound I made using a really basic saw reese that I made in 3oscx I think or massive? Can't recall. It has a real metal sound to it. Kinda like Datsik and Excision but more realistic metal, I haven't re-sampled it much I just twisted the wave spacing in the FL granulizer and then played with the pitch in the INS tab, the pitch LFO and the grain spacing in the granulizer.

What do you think? You may not like it, taste is taste.

Forgive the clip I whipped it up in around a minute to show it in context with the drums :)

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Pretty much the same idea and sound here :W: but just like that, that would be go for this new "deathstep" people are calling now. I fucking hate sub genres but its litteraly all the tunes revolve around that more metal feel. Not really keen for it. Im better at making a reese which im pretty sound at, but those reeses are for some neuro and glitch hop tracks. This datsik/excision sound is for more my oldschool dubstep tracks, not this modern brostep stuff being washed and rinsed....

Im still trying to figure out that clean, smooth, vocal and i hate to say it but robot sound.... if you were to resample that with different channels with tons of phaser, it would get that "robot" vocal characteristic.

I added some small phasers on on the first clip, its inside an effect rack to keep things tiddy but inside the patch i modded the phaser fx tab which gives it that extra icing on that vocal sound in the int patch
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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:42 am

So you're not feeling this metal sound? It is quite harsh. I'm more in Noisia billain stuff but with filtering I could get it sounding big :)

Yeah I know what you mean like the BBC Radio 1 Mix by Excision is so gangsta and clean sounding WOPS, not wobs but WOPS :)

I love it, I cant crack the sound, I recall Excision said it's the order of effects you use, he said DOA taught him all he knows so it's reese processing one way or another. He also said He using Albino for grimy solid wobs/wops.

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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by R3b_Official » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:10 pm

Ahah im dude! i just said if you left it as is and didnt go to sample it like nosia/billain it would be something in a "deathstep" track.

Yeah well i dont know how to explain it but a vocal wobble, Wops explain it pretty well also :lol:

To bad Doa is gone...., i had tons of threads saved for stuff about reese's and the next week it gets shut down.
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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by DubMikey » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:09 am

The Datsik/Excision type basses are "all" about the effects.

Here is an example. The first is a simple massive patch without any process/effects added to it, and the second is the same patch with some distortion, delay and a touch of reverb on it. Bear in mind this was made in a couple of minutes.

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Re: My attempt at Datsik/excision/Downlink sound?

Post by R3b_Official » Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:10 pm

DubMikey wrote:The Datsik/Excision type basses are "all" about the effects.

Here is an example. The first is a simple massive patch without any process/effects added to it, and the second is the same patch with some distortion, delay and a touch of reverb on it. Bear in mind this was made in a couple of minutes.

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Yeah we know that, but its about getting that int bass and then modulating that and then going to resample it and chop it up to fit in the rest of a song or whatever but inside the finally sound its getting that nice solid wobble and vocal talking sound. Lots of trail and error.
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