Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

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Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by Troublesome » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:57 am

Im a producer from Auckland New Zealand

Any feedback would be appreciated

cheers


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Re: Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by Troublesome » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:20 pm

anyone?

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Re: Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by omgitsblake » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:37 pm

I like the vibes of the song and the potential in it, however, the drums sound relatively weak compared to the rest of the mix, give them a little more punch via EQing, compression, and maybe duck the synths behind the drums with a tad bit of sidechaining, don't set it too a 100% in the mixer. I am admittedly, a very huge fan of sidechaining haha. Good luck with the tune mate!

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Re: Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by Troublesome » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:12 pm

omgitsblake wrote:I like the vibes of the song and the potential in it, however, the drums sound relatively weak compared to the rest of the mix, give them a little more punch via EQing, compression, and maybe duck the synths behind the drums with a tad bit of sidechaining, don't set it too a 100% in the mixer. I am admittedly, a very huge fan of sidechaining haha. Good luck with the tune mate!

Cheers for the tips mate! Still trying to wrap my head around the whole eqing and mixing down side of things!

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Re: Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by omgitsblake » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:39 pm

No problem. You should take a look at this thread if you haven't already; I believe everyone should:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=74832

My two favorite posts being:
Sorry if it isn't really answering your question, but -3 is way too high.

Remember that 6dB is half. So if you have one element at -6, that is half your headroom gone. Two elements at -6dB each = all your headroom gone. Having the drums at -3 will leave you fighting against clipping and struggling to keep everything down and under control.

Rather, set your drums for *around* -8 / -10 (ie, a bit less than half). The bass - if we are talking a pure sine sub - would probably sit best a dB or two below that, any distorted/fullband bass sounds should be effectively treated as different entities and mixed appropriately (due to Fletcher Munson).

This leaves you with a few dB headroom, and everything else is just parsley. No more fighting anything, you *will* get repeatable and consistent levels in your mixes, and better mixes as a result.

:) :) :)
It's just good, sensible mix practice :)

- You'll never have to move your master fader again :)

- You'll never get clipping again (unless you're really doing something wrong)

- You'll mix more consistently as you won't be 'chasing your tail', pushing things up on the left and turning them down on the right (sound familiar anyone?)

- You'll get a sense for where tracks should sit peak-level-wise depending on what they are (drums ~ -8 to -10, bass a bit lower, pads maybe -18dB, shakers down below that etc).

- following from that you'll start getting the sound right at source, and find yourself moving the faders less = better fader resolution for finer level tweaking

- Your tunes are more likely to be easily master-able (no clipping or shoehorning under 0dB happening)

- Your ME will thank you for it by making it sound fucking huge

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Re: Troublesome-"Tuesday Blues" (Minimal/Dramatic Horns)

Post by Troublesome » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:46 am

omgitsblake wrote:No problem. You should take a look at this thread if you haven't already; I believe everyone should:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=74832

My two favorite posts being:
Sorry if it isn't really answering your question, but -3 is way too high.

Remember that 6dB is half. So if you have one element at -6, that is half your headroom gone. Two elements at -6dB each = all your headroom gone. Having the drums at -3 will leave you fighting against clipping and struggling to keep everything down and under control.

Rather, set your drums for *around* -8 / -10 (ie, a bit less than half). The bass - if we are talking a pure sine sub - would probably sit best a dB or two below that, any distorted/fullband bass sounds should be effectively treated as different entities and mixed appropriately (due to Fletcher Munson).

This leaves you with a few dB headroom, and everything else is just parsley. No more fighting anything, you *will* get repeatable and consistent levels in your mixes, and better mixes as a result.

:) :) :)
It's just good, sensible mix practice :)

- You'll never have to move your master fader again :)

- You'll never get clipping again (unless you're really doing something wrong)

- You'll mix more consistently as you won't be 'chasing your tail', pushing things up on the left and turning them down on the right (sound familiar anyone?)

- You'll get a sense for where tracks should sit peak-level-wise depending on what they are (drums ~ -8 to -10, bass a bit lower, pads maybe -18dB, shakers down below that etc).

- following from that you'll start getting the sound right at source, and find yourself moving the faders less = better fader resolution for finer level tweaking

- Your tunes are more likely to be easily master-able (no clipping or shoehorning under 0dB happening)

- Your ME will thank you for it by making it sound fucking huge
Cheers mate!! Honestly cant tel you how much your comment helped me hahaha i woudve replyed earler but after reading your feedbac i decided to look further into sidechain compression and have just been obseesed with it ever since haha so many awesome uses!! so yea just goes to show how helpfull feedback is!!! this forum rocks haha

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