dubstep wobble help

[drake31590]

So im having a hard time making my wobbles sound "full" it seems im doing stuff wrong. Do people layer 3 wobbles and eq them? I know your suppose to resample too but every time I try they almost seem to distorted and sound worse. I know im missing something. Any help would be awesome from you vets out there! Thanks everyone!

[dca]

So im having a hard time making my wobbles sound "full" it seems im doing stuff wrong. Do people layer 3 wobbles and eq them?

Layering 3 basses would get real muddy real fast. The sounds you are trying to make are probably made with one layer, with perhaps a sub layered underneath. Do you have a sub playing underneath? That might be why they are thin and dont have the weight youre looking for

I know your suppose to resample too but every time I try they almost seem to distorted and sound worse. I know im missing something

you dont have to resample, its not magic and like you said its another way to take a good idea and turn it to shit with good intentions. If it doesnt sound good as is, resampling in hopes it will sound good is probably not a good idea

You might want to post up a clip or something for reference

chances are you need more thickness on the low end, and might be going to heavy with filtering and/or distortion

[Genevieve]

You may be over-EQ'ing (very likely), boosting the highs too much or using notes that are too high. Is there a sub or much low end?

Basslines are super easy to overprocess. And understandably so, a nicely modulated bassline depends on a lot of EQ/filter work. What I would do is choose a note that give you a decent, solid, low sub as a root note and write the bassline from that. Saturate it and add filters/modulation for as long as it sounds thin. As soon as you notice things are starting to sound thin, remove EQ/filter bands OR reconsider at what frequency they're active.

[drake31590]

When I finish the song ill post it so you guys can hear what I mean. I add a simple sub underneath my wobble, I usually add some effects from Camelphat Omicide or sausage fattened and they seem to just not hit hard. Almost like weak sounding. Im using very love notes too so idk if thats the problem. So resampling isn't always better... good to know.

[dca]

When I finish the song ill post it so you guys can hear what I mean. I add a simple sub underneath my wobble, I usually add some effects from Camelphat Omicide or sausage fattened and they seem to just not hit hard. Almost like weak sounding. Im using very love notes too so idk if thats the problem. So resampling isn't always better... good to know.

this ones notorious for doing exactly what you're having an issue with... make sure you are setting up your bands and gains correctly on that thing

[drake31590]

Are their better vst or filters that are Better than those?

[dca]

I was referring to Ohmicide specifically, thats why I highlighted it. It has a way of thinning out sounds and making things very harsh in the mids/highs

As for recommendations, I do use ohmicide (sparingly) and usually I have one or two bands on specific ranges

Camelphat is great, Trash is good too, any tube distortion, and a Saturator effect can work nicely... overdrive as well (actually been using basic overdrive a lot lately)

[drake31590]

I have never tried trash or overdrive ill check it out. Have you used that ozone(I think thats what its called) one?

[dca]

I wouldnt use ozone for major filtering duties... it can EQ for sure, but if youre talking about getting your bass movement filtering I wouldnt really use it for that...it can do some distortion but I wouldnt really call it a distortion unit. I could see it for stereo imaging and dynamics though...

[drake31590]

So for the drop than I just have my wobble over my drums the sub under the wobble and thats it? Sounds to easy haha. I just feel something im doing is just off later today ill out up the section im working on so I can get some input.

[drake31590]

So Here Is My First Excuse For A Mix Lol. It's Far From Done And Needs A Ton Of Work It Has No Intro Or End Lol But Listen To The Wobbles And Tell Me What The Heck Im Doing Wrong :/ As Of Now Nothing Has Much Eq And No Effects Have Been Added.

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[outbound]

What are your source waves? It may be an idea to get something a bit more harmonically rich if you are after a more complex/thicker sound.

[dca]

So Here Is My First Excuse For A Mix Lol. It's Far From Done And Needs A Ton Of Work It Has No Intro Or End Lol But Listen To The Wobbles And Tell Me What The Heck Im Doing Wrong :/ As Of Now Nothing Has Much Eq And No Effects Have Been Added.

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are you using massive? It sounds like wavetables. I think that a lot of these special wave forms lack thickness in the lows/mids. Like outbound said tell us a little more about what these waves.

Also, I would take a look at the bass channels through a spectral analyzer and take a look at where they are sitting so you can figure out where things might be lacking. With that info you could add in another layer to the signal, or eq and see how you can tidy up and boost whats there

[enjarcher]

First off, I would sidechain all your basses to your kick, as the kick is not cutting through at all at the moment. For the basses, try using multiband compression (from ozone or elsewhere) to fatten them up.

[TEKN]

Sounds like you know what you're doing musically and structure wise...I'd recommend checking out 'the money shot' thread in the production bible because from the sounds of it you need to learn about gain structuring. A lot of things fighting for space there because the levels and eq need work. Sub needs to be notched for the kick to fit, kick needs to be high passed so sub fits. Also sounds like you're using modern talking wavetable in massive...waves like that will never sound thick without proper processing and knowledge of layering. I'd recommend just using saw or square wave at this stage until you get used to balancing everything.
Hope that helps tried to be as constructive as possible

[drake31590]

Thanks Man I'll Def Check It Out. I'm Trying Figure Out How To Side chain Now... Not Many Good Tutorial Vids I Can Find. But I Think The Song Is Starting To Sound Better Now.

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