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Mixing Dubstep With Decks?

Post by edd » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:07 pm

Yeah, so im starting to get into my dubstep :D i know most people mix it on their computers, but i was wondering how hard it is to mix with decks. Ive heard its pretty hard and Ive only just started, but it would be nice to add some step to my collection.

Not many too many releases though :cry:


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Post by 4linehaiku » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:12 pm

Think you'll find 99% of dubstep is mixed on Decks. Not the easiest genre to start with though, maybe get some a few cheap House / Techno tunes and learn to beatmatch with them first. The 4x4 kick drum pulse makes things alot easier.

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Post by edd » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:13 pm

4linehaiku wrote:Think you'll find 99% of dubstep is mixed on Decks. Not the easiest genre to start with though, maybe get some a few cheap House / Techno tunes and learn to beatmatch with them first. The 4x4 kick drum pulse makes things alot easier.
i can mix, i just heard dubstep was a hard genre to mix, i was wondering how hard. ive only been mixing a few months, so yeah

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Post by 4linehaiku » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:17 pm

Well if you can already handle beatmatching and that you should be fine. It's a bit harder to get your head round I guess, but with a bit of practise it's fine.

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Post by thomas edison » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:22 pm

4linehaiku wrote:Well if you can already handle beatmatching and that you should be fine. It's a bit harder to get your head round I guess, but with a bit of practise it's fine.
the hard part are the sometimes "weird" beats, with snares all over the place and stuff

just listen to the tune as a whole (melodie and bass as well) and use the kicks and you should do fine

and why in godsname did you think most people use software to mix dubstep?!

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Post by the lone raver » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:27 pm

I bought my decks a few months back. before that i had no experience mixin what so ever. i dont even know anyone in edinburgh who's into dubstep or has decks. i've been puttin in a more hours recently but think its goin take me a bit of time to get the beat matchin thing down. some tracks are easy to mix but some of the more cluttered wonky rhythms are really difficult. i got zamyatin tapes today and was trying to mix it into pepper spray, serious derailment! i know they're not obvious tracks to mix but i think it makes good practice. too easy to match up some of those half step tunes where the snare always comes on the second and fourth beat then think you've nailed it.
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Post by little boh peep » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:27 pm

There was a thread on the production forum covering this topic: http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6906

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Post by guerillaeye » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:30 pm

4linehaiku wrote:Well if you can already handle beatmatching and that you should be fine. It's a bit harder to get your head round I guess, but with a bit of practise it's fine.
what you want to do, is double fish hook the learning curve and give it all you got... drive that shit to quality!

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Post by dirty » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:32 pm

I don't think its that hard to mix, just make sure you know your tunes and select well
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Post by andy havok » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:43 pm

I cant mix most Burial stuff still.

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Post by vonboyage » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:44 pm

Andy Havok wrote:Unite / Ghost Hardware / Wayfaring stranger
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Post by edd » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:44 pm

cheers guys, think once my mixers back up ill be ordering some dubstep tunes ;)

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Post by dubloke » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:11 pm

i started mixing on dubstep and it is quite hard because of the variety, but youve just got to build up your collection and try and get some help from mates that might dj dubstep. doubt that helped but im bored and felt like writing something :roll:
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Post by thomas » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:30 pm

Dubloke wrote:i started mixing on dubstep and it is quite hard because of the variety, but youve just got to build up your collection and try and get some help from mates that might dj dubstep. doubt that helped but im bored and felt like writing something :roll:
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Yeh, i listen for the snares, or bass if the snares are all over the place.

I nod my head, tap my feet and sing the melody a little.

Make sure the headphones are the same volume as the playing track, otherwise it just wont work.

Practice slowing and speeding up tracks with your hands, this can save time re-cueing tracks all the time.

Increase pitch +1 / -1 each time, then fine tune once its pretty close.

Hope this helps, im no amazing DJ but i can beatmatch pretty well.

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Post by boomting » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:38 pm

The Lone Raver wrote:i got zamyatin tapes today and was trying to mix it into pepper spray, serious derailment! i know they're not obvious tracks to mix but i think it makes good practice.
i dont own pepper spray but i heard it is about 160/170 bpm. if that is the case you wont be mixing it with any other dubstep tunes

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Post by 4linehaiku » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:40 pm

The Lone Raver wrote:i dont even know anyone in edinburgh who's into dubstep or has decks ... i got zamyatin tapes today and was trying to mix it into pepper spray, serious derailment! i know they're not obvious tracks to mix but i think it makes good practice.
If you fancy an Edinburgh mix up sometime just PM me, I've got a fairly nice set up and loads a dubstep. Always keen for some b2b mixing.
And as a heads up: Pepper Spray is like 170bpm, you'd need some pretty serious pitching to mix it with the Zamyatin stuff, or any dubstep for that matter.
The older 2step stuff is a lot harder to mix with in my opinion, so much going on all over the place. Makes some tunes slot together in amazing unexpected ways and others crash horribly.

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Post by wascal » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:48 pm

boomting wrote:
The Lone Raver wrote:i got zamyatin tapes today and was trying to mix it into pepper spray, serious derailment! i know they're not obvious tracks to mix but i think it makes good practice.
i dont own pepper spray but i heard it is about 160/170 bpm. if that is the case you wont be mixing it with any other dubstep tunes
Apart from Two by Jazzsteppa, thats around the same bpm

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Post by the lone raver » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:35 pm

4linehaiku wrote:
The Lone Raver wrote:i dont even know anyone in edinburgh who's into dubstep or has decks ... i got zamyatin tapes today and was trying to mix it into pepper spray, serious derailment! i know they're not obvious tracks to mix but i think it makes good practice.
If you fancy an Edinburgh mix up sometime just PM me, I've got a fairly nice set up and loads a dubstep. Always keen for some b2b mixing.
And as a heads up: Pepper Spray is like 170bpm, you'd need some pretty serious pitching to mix it with the Zamyatin stuff, or any dubstep for that matter.
The older 2step stuff is a lot harder to mix with in my opinion, so much going on all over the place. Makes some tunes slot together in amazing unexpected ways and others crash horribly.
i thought it was fast but not that fast! thanks for the heads up. will definitely take you up on that offer. well should see you handin out flyers outside the bongo club tomorrow night, will be sure to say hello.
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Post by pure » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:34 pm

I think dubstep is very easy to mix.

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Post by claw » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:17 am

my cdjs are in vinyl mode when i play...like a deck, except alot more steady with the pitch and whatnot

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