EQ plugin with a keyboard-follow-option?

[_Agu_]

^Title says it all. I get annoyed all the time by having to automate the frequency bands for every note when surgically cutting frequencies from leads and other midrange stuff.

[cyclopian]

edit.

[3za]

0.1. Resample it
0.2. Look through every eq on kvr audio till you find one possiblely
0.3. Make one with max/msp, reaktor, c whatever
0.4. Use a synth with keytracking notch/peak filters

[_Agu_]

0.1. Resample it

Too much work

0.2. Look through every eq on kvr audio till you find one possiblely

Thanks, gonna check this out

0.3. Make one with max/msp, reaktor, c whatever

I'm actually considering to get Reaktor soon anyways.

0.4. Use a synth with keytracking notch/peak filters

Been there, done that, ran out of filters + filters on many synths aren't usually that good for sharp cuts.

Thanks for response!

[nowaysj]

Don't work with sounds where you have to do that. We've all been sucked into it. Never sounds right.

And you should improve your resampling workflow so it is nearly instantaneous.

[3za]

Don't work with sounds where you have to do that. We've all been sucked into it. Never sounds right.

I disagree, get rid of them nasty spikes in the spectrum, and it's go to go. The problem only really comes when they move around in the spectum, so you have to follow them, which can be tedious to remove manually.

And you should improve your resampling workflow so it is nearly instantaneous.

I agree with this, but some DAW's handle this very shittly, like FL

OP: you found anything yet?

[nowaysj]

fl resamples so quickly it is a joke.

[NinjaEdit]

I think you're after a dynamic EQ.

[_Agu_]

Don't work with sounds where you have to do that. We've all been sucked into it. Never sounds right.

I disagree, get rid of them nasty spikes in the spectrum, and it's go to go. The problem only really comes when they move around in the spectum, so you have to follow them, which can be tedious to remove manually.

This is exactly my point. If I have a lead with just a bit too loud harmonic somewhere, no problem, I take it down a bit. However, when that too loud harmonic is moving all around, shit gets annoying.

And you should improve your resampling workflow so it is nearly instantaneous.

By too much work, I mean that everytime I want to tweak a parameter on a synth, I need to bounce stuff to audio again. Also all LFOs/Envelopes go out of sync, unless I bounce every note the synth is playing one by one.

OP: you found anything yet?

Actually speaking of this:

dynamic EQ.

Voxengo GlissEQ seems pretty nice, anyone using this?

[3za]

fl resamples so quickly it is a joke.

Compared to other DAW where you can one click bounce to a new track, it's slow.

In FL you have to bounce/record the track, then open up the file, then place it in the right place, then set the level, then put it on a mixer track, then name the track, then colour code it. In Logic/Pro tools/ableton this is all done automatically.

Unless I'm missing a feature/update for FL...

I think you're after a dynamic EQ.

Nah

He wants something under the lines of key tracking/key following/pitch tracking/pitch following/etc.

[mt1]

fl resamples so quickly it is a joke.

Compared to other DAW where you can one click bounce to a new track, it's slow.

In FL you have to bounce/record the track, then open up the file, then place it in the right place, then set the level, then put it on a mixer track, then name the track, then colour code it. In Logic/Pro tools/ableton this is all done automatically.

Unless I'm missing a feature/update for FL...

Not sure exactly what we're after here, but I never do what's listed above... If you want a fresh copy of the whole track but you want to keep the clip where its at there's "Make Unique" which will clone the track and make the target clip point to the new track.. If you want to just save the current clip as a new sample its a one click "Make Unique As Sample".

After doing that reassigning the mixer track is just "Assign Free Mixer Track"... The track name is set to the name of the sample for you, and color coding is another click if you want it, but I usually don't bother with such things.

Am I just way off in what you all are trying to do here though??

[3za]

If you want a fresh copy of the whole track but you want to keep the clip where its at there's "Make Unique" which will clone the track and make the target clip point to the new track..

This is another flaw with FL, in other DAW's you copy a clip in the playlist, and you edit that, and the origanal stays the same. In FL you have to copy the clip, then "make unique", then edit the clip. Also all these "make unique" makes that "stupid little box" which has all the audio/samples/automation VSTi's in it messy. Hate that little box swear it's at the heart of 50% of the problems with the software, also swear it's the only daw ever to have something like that.

If you want to just save the current clip as a new sample its a one click "Make Unique As Sample".

No I don't.

I want the orignal VST'i/effect chain/midi/ muted, and hidden (or not depending on why I'm resampling), then I want a audio file of that track (at the same level) on a new mixer track with a nice name in one click. Like you can in most of DAW's.

Am I just way off in what you all are trying to do here though??

Pretty much yeah. You won't realise how backwards FL studio handles resampling till you use something like, Logic, Pro Tools, Ableton, etc...


FL piano roll is dope though, I want that in Pro Tools (just not attached to that stupid little fucking box).

[mt1]

If you want a fresh copy of the whole track but you want to keep the clip where its at there's "Make Unique" which will clone the track and make the target clip point to the new track..

This is another flaw with FL, in other DAW's you copy a clip in the playlist, and you edit that, and the origanal stays the same. In FL you have to copy the clip, then "make unique", then edit the clip.

It sounds like what you'd prefer is that when you copy and paste an audio clip in the playlist it would auto-create a new mixer track and sample: Basically the *default* behavior should be Make Unique, but it also should auto-assign a new mixer track.

That would make it really really weird to do the kind of sample/vocal manipulation I currently do. Duplicating a playlist clip shouldn't invoke that behavior. I use FL myself all the time- and I would not want that feature. I do think that Make Unique is wayyyyy too slow when you are remixing with stems-- it should not have to reload the track until a change is made to the second channel- but that is not currently the case and 'Make Unique' on a song-wide audio track will usually take 10-20 seconds

Also all these "make unique" makes that "stupid little box" which has all the audio/samples/automation VSTi's in it messy. Hate that little box swear it's at the heart of 50% of the problems with the software, also swear it's the only daw ever to have something like that.

YES OMG SO TRUE. The "Channels" window is I think what you are talking about here and it needs to fucking DIE. That thing is ancient and awful and no longer makes any sense. I almost NEVER use the step sequencer... the Piano Roll dominates it in terms of capabilities in every way... I also have not figured out why putting automation clips into the Channels list makes any sense at all... None of the controls within the Channel properties popup actually affect them at all...

If you want to just save the current clip as a new sample its a one click "Make Unique As Sample".

No I don't.

I want the orignal VST'i/effect chain/midi/ muted, and hidden (or not depending on why I'm resampling), then I want a audio file of that track (at the same level) on a new mixer track with a nice name in one click. Like you can in most of DAW's.

OH, you want to create a sample from a section of the track _with its effects_ rendered out to a wave file and placed in place on the playlist where the original piano roll / generator stuff was? If so you are totally correct. The only good way to do it is to use the FX buttons in the mixer to drop out any effects you don't want, then highlight the section of the playlist you want to export then use the standard Export to render a wave of it, then find it in the Browser, drag it in and reposition just as you said. It doesn't kill me when I have to do it but from what I hear this is soooo much better in other DAWs and certainly if it were easier to do I would do it far more often.

Am I just way off in what you all are trying to do here though??

Pretty much yeah. You won't realise how backwards FL studio handles resampling till you use something like, Logic, Pro Tools, Ableton, etc...


FL piano roll is dope though, I want that in Pro Tools (just not attached to that stupid little fucking box).

Agreed that it is awesome but I don't get why it's not already a thing for a long time in other DAWs...

[nowaysj]

Haha, no, that is not how you resample.

FL is not one click freeze, that is true, you have to do a little more, but that more that you do enables you greater control in the resampling. That is always the tradeoff: greater control with more complexity vs less control with more ease. FL just happens to fall on the greater control with this issue. I'm sure sometimes I'd one click it. Would be nice to have that option.

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Yes. Voxengo Gliss EQ is really awesome for many reasons. Its my standard EQ.

[_Agu_]

Yes. Voxengo Gliss EQ is really awesome for many reasons. Its my standard EQ.

Good to hear, I actually watched few reviews for it on youtube, looks like that would solve the problem. Shit, I shouldn't ever read anything about any plugins, you get addicted on them easily...

[fragments]

Yes. Voxengo Gliss EQ is really awesome for many reasons. Its my standard EQ.

Good to hear, I actually watched few reviews for it on youtube, looks like that would solve the problem. Shit, I shouldn't ever read anything about any plugins, you get addicted on them easily...

I want to say I saw Distance using it on some kind of masterclass video. Not that it means anything *really*...but you know... besides the dynamic EQ ability. The fact you can overlay the frequency response of up to six instances of the EQ right on top of each other in different colors can be really great for surgical cutting. That is why I bought it originally when I was first learning about EQ/mixing.

[mt1]

Haha, no, that is not how you resample.

Is there a faster way to resample in FL other than bouncing the track out via Export?

[nowaysj]

Well, there are a couple of ways. You can hit the little disk icon on the tracks you want to resample, and clips will appear in the playlist, but a better option (for control) is to hit ctrl E on the channel you want to resample. You can put Edison where you want it in your fx chain, before fx, after, in the middle (use scroll wheel while hovering the fx). In edison, choose how you want to record, I usually loop record when play starts, you'll get markers and what not, this is a great way to do comps. Then after your recording, you can do various edits, embed tempo, fades what not, and drag the clip into the browser for storage in a particular place in your library, or drag the clip into the playlist.

And again, now you have choice, you can send that clip to the same mixer channel, for example if you resampled before fx, or you resampled with fx, and you then turn off the fx in the channel, or blended, you turn off some of the processing to embed that in the sample, but keep some of the dynamics and eq for later tweaking in the mix, and you can then keep the same sends, and what not, or just send to a new mixer channel depending on what you're doing.

A lot of variability in what you need to do when resampling, and Edison is champ for this kind of thing, it is also quick as fuck.

[cyclopian]

edit this is aimed at mt1: only used FL studio for like 2 weeks when i was first learning production, but shouldnt you be able to just route the audio from what you're trying to resample into another channel and record the audio in? Dont' see why you'd actually have to export out of the program then reimport the file in. That seems crazy.

edit: nvm noways cleared it up anywayz