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Postby Elkie » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:18 pm

Anyone had much success with this sort of sound?

I'm not really sure how to approach it - is it mostly sample based or do you think these guys are just MIDI wizards?
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Postby soronery » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:21 pm

can you post some tunes for example of what you mean
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Postby apostlebass » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:40 pm

I said this in another thread that had a similar question, so I will quote the response I put in that thread on here. I make this sound, so there are many different ways of doing it, I listed several different methods in this response. I myself use a little bit of both methods, it depends on the track.

apostlebass wrote:Alright, well considering I make that jazzy vibe, and I talk to Trashbat, B9, Jafu, Freud, etc. on a regular basis I can give you the rundown on how we make this sound. There are 2 main methods that we use to get this sound.

For artists like Geode, and Cal (Trashbat), they use several different piano sounds to accomplish this sound. A VST I have found that recreates this is Lounge Lizard, but really any VST with Electronic Pianos will work (Logic has some good e-piano presets). Geode tends to make more of a Jazzy, Deep House style. So stabs and short melodies are the way to go.

For artists like myself, B9, and Freud, we use sampling to accomplish this sound. Our sound is a bit more jazzy, and less garagey. Sampling jazz piano riffs, or any real piano riff in general will accomplish this sound.

Simplicity is key to our scene. If you listen to Geode - Embrace, you can hear that the melody is carried throughout the track, but drum variation, vocal one shots, automations in tremelo add variation. When I first started this sound I had no idea where to start. I eventually found my own style and stick with it; but, I hope this helped a little bit. If you need anymore help, or feedback I would be happy to help you out. Just sort me a soundcloud message or a pm on here :)
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Postby test_recordings » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:11 am

Is this Trashbat? It's fucking beautiful, must use a lot of recorded instruments, especially the guitar
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Postby ChadDub » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:40 am

idk how Silkie produces but I know his music is good
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Postby cyclopian » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:43 am

viewtopic.php?f=63&t=307061

Check out the sound design forum overall.
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Postby legend4ry » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:43 pm

From your reference artists, i've been making this sound since around.. 08? I would just say the obvious what no one has mentioned...

Learn how to play piano.



This guy it great.

Get some good quality VSTs & kontakt libraries, learn about articulations. Try and get authenticity using midi. The rest just comes from your own creativity.

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Or you could just sample everything like most people do.
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Postby apostlebass » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:09 pm

legend4ry wrote:Or you could just sample everything like most people do.


Nothing wrong with sampling ;)
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Postby ChadDub » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:00 pm

I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em
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Postby apostlebass » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:49 am

ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em


I hope this is a joke
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Postby ChadDub » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:53 am

apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em


I hope this is a joke

How is it a joke?
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Postby apostlebass » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:04 am

ChadDub wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em


I hope this is a joke

How is it a joke?


There's no creativity in taking a song and adding an 808 under it. There is so much more to sampling than that. That's stealing, not sampling.
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Postby ChadDub » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:15 am

apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em


I hope this is a joke

How is it a joke?


There's no creativity in taking a song and adding an 808 under it. There is so much more to sampling than that. That's stealing, not sampling.

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Postby apostlebass » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:37 am

ChadDub wrote:


Not sure why you would link me to that video. Considering it's Flosstradamus, but if you insist...

http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/09/dutch-hardstyle-producers-accuse-flosstradamus-of-theft-who-say-theyre-only-sampling/

Sampling is the art of taking a PORTION of a piece of music and turning it into something completely different. Taking a whole song, and slapping an 808 under it is not innovative, it takes no artistic ability, or creativity to do. That's stealing.
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Postby ChadDub » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:49 am

REMIX,..... REMIX,.......REMIX,......
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Postby legend4ry » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:45 am

apostlebass wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Or you could just sample everything like most people do.


Nothing wrong with sampling ;)


Nah, course not.

Just its different when as an artist you're not open about it.

Ive seen certain people not say they use samples and imply that they played it. :a:
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Postby apostlebass » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:38 pm

legend4ry wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Or you could just sample everything like most people do.


Nothing wrong with sampling ;)


Nah, course not.

Just its different when as an artist you're not open about it.

Ive seen certain people not say they use samples and imply that they played it. :a:


Of course :i:
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Postby lentilka » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:49 pm

I ain't got nothing against sampling as long as people are not lazy but creative, that means I want to hear sample flipped properly and not just untouched loops with beat over it for the rest of the song. :a:

Of course there can be exceptions as with everything.
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Postby test_recordings » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:23 am

Jazz production aesthetics are very 'clean' so it should be easy to sample
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Postby syrup » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:57 pm

I missed Chaddub
https://soundcloud.com/johney/tapeworm-dub

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