'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by DrGatineau » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:19 pm

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CreamLord wrote:Taking any drug on a regular basis will have a negative impact on your health, so technically yes, smoking weed on a regular basis can have a negative impact on your mental health.
Define drug, alcohol is bad for if you abuse it but it's a drink, not a drug. Can you abuse Panadol?
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by leyenda » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:24 pm

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by DiegoSapiens » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:24 pm

thanks for the information terpit.
it also gives you hunger and makes you obese
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by Samuel_L_Damnson » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:08 pm

Hmmmm it makes u like afroman who punches women so weed = mysogenist violence
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by wolf89 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:44 pm

leyenda wrote:Image

You're in for a treat

Also just noticed Rolf on the cover as well as JLB8. Chris Morris prophecy
Chris Morris also got into trouble for making a pedo joke about Jimmy Saville years back too
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by butter_man » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:12 pm

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butter_man wrote:what about negative effects for recreational part time smokers. we know the negs for the full timers.
Alcohol gives you a hangover for a day or two but your right as rain usually after that.
5am sunday morning was my last toke and todays been a right struggle to fight off the mardyness.
I'm not exactly a model of calm though but sobriety has taught me where and when I can cope and today has been fraught in a usually non fraught enviroment. this to me is a big negative, another reason why I cant do recreational opiates cos of mildly psychotic mood swings in the days following. alcohol makes me feel like hell and that I really was the arse that last night I thought I wasn't but not angry. that stonovers bad cos it's shit like that that causes fights/rows and I never hear about it discussed and I know its not me as Ive seen stoner mates lose there shit when there supplies been dry.
tbf I usually dont suffer stoneovers at all and feel pretty lucky in that respect, and i try and have periods of at least a few weeks or a month or so every so often of not smoking to keep my head in the game, if you get angry when you cant get stoned thats just sad and it shows the person probably does have an issue. (sad in an upsetting way, not like lol get a life)
Yeh, I know one of my friends who loses her shit when she can't get, has problem, but then she works full time so don't really pull her up on it as she seems happy. seems like half a life though, bound to a substance you have to take daily yet you see it as what you do to escape.
My stoneovers been alright up until today. I had a moment yesterday where I thought I was completely sober and then halfway through my gym induction I looked at the clock and things went abstract and I realised I was STILL a bit stoned. Today I've found it took me a bit longer to shake off the general negative feeling you get when your self has a tendency to veer towards depression, my self before the saturday stoner sesh had a list of thoughts to combat it so I didnt dwell, I either misplaced them today or they didnt seem to ring as true as they did before.
saying that I needed that night to get twisted. it's put a full stop at the end of a sentence of existence, like a breath in between the next bit of life so Im not running round with my face red exasperated and gasping wondering where the next think stop is. it also reaffirmed I dont want to do it again for at least a few months as I can't afford the days following to get over it. that and vaping just isnt the same as smoking so doesnt have the same draw. pun semi intended.
feel like I'm getting back on my shit know, tho.
tbf i can sympathise with the view of getting stoned to escape the mundanity of work or life, I worked a succession of menial dead end jobs for a while just to earn a bit of cash for uni and getting baked pretty much kept me sane during those months, as i had no other ways to release stress due to time constraints mainly (I worked nights from 6pm-6am 6 days a week, with the option of a daytime shift on sundays if i wanted more money). I used to go to work a bit blazed and then have a joint on my break or something and the shift would fly by and everything was fine haha. I realised that this wouldnt be forever though which is why I dont think I ever had a problem.

I've always moderated my use depending on my situation in life at the time tbh. Besides that period and for a while when I was at uni I've never really fallen into a pattern of daily use, although with the money I'll be earning I can see myself getting a draw in most weeks and just having a weak joint on a night time to help me nod off to sleep if i need it or if my days been particularly stressful, similar to having a glass of wine or a beer.

edit - I'm also a diagnosed sufferer of clinical depression and I feel in a way cannabis has helped me with deal with that, as sometimes a bit of escapism was a good thing for me personally. It allowed me to forget my problems for a little while and relax my body and mind. Although I'd definitely like to say this is my own personal experience and whilst i feel it genuinely helped me (and my mum as well although that could be a whole other thread on its own so i wont go into it), it can quite easily makes things worse for the next person.
I can never say whether it's helped me or not in my life as a life outside of it has not been lived to weigh up against. I do admit it helped me deal with a furrowed brow and a head full of anger/depression but I'm also not sure wether the ability to be okay with not functioning in 'real life' and the lack of ambition I was happy with while stoned was because of me not achieving what I wanted and therefore stonedness just being a plaster for a sore it created. Not saying thats for everyone just how I seen it.
As for depression, Im not sure what it is a hundred percent. I know theres a difference between how I feel/have felt now from before I was 17 when I was diagnosed with it. I never really embraced the notion it as such until my mid twenties but realised my actions and decisions where tinged with this negativity/lack of hope that wasn't there before the major upheaval that led to me feeling this way. It's only in the last year I've decided to try and fight it, and that doesn't really change it, 'it' being a default negative feeling from the moment I wake up. All fighting it does is limit the amount of decisions the negativity can permeate before I make them. For each thought that tell's me there isn't any worth for me getting up, there's another one that follow's saying 'well, that's what a muppet would think'. Each process follows this, till now I've secured employment, proritised my health and the most important: started making choices that will have effect on the long term goals rather than existing for now.
I was never able to do any of that when smoking pot as my brains filing system was too convoluted to form a lucid coherent thought pattern that could produce this system of thought. Saying that though I was a pothead in the extreme case, the thoughts that got me out of bed were that of 'coffee an a doob' which I relished and continued to until I went to sleep that night. I miss those times if I'm being honest but I know there not conducive to building a life which will see me at in the least being satisfied to help fight this negative feeling. I owe it to myself, whom I feel is of average intelligence to live a life that can and should be afforded to me and getting rid of any hurdles that may be in the way even if they do alleviate the mundanity of the struggle to get to where I need to be.
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by Ricky_Spanish » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:38 pm

It's one of those drugs that you 'grow out of' when you realise that if you need it, so you can be a certain way or feel a certain way, then it is not you and is just the drug anyway, so what is the point? Whatever it gives you it takes it away somewhere else that you don't realise.

For me it just turned boring stuff into okay, and cool stuff into awesome. and made me paranoid.

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:59 pm

if your life sucks and weed makes you happy then why not smoke. you only live once
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nobody » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:48 pm

does the same apply to heroin? prostitutes? punching people?
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:14 pm

maybe if you only do those things once a year and those things make you happy
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by Liam92 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:47 pm

nobody wrote:does the same apply to heroin? prostitutes? punching people?
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:04 pm

i think im going to washington to get some weed from the weed shop. theres no bus that goes there and ill have to walk
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by karmacazee » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:48 pm

Mental health disorders cause use of smoking 'skunk like cannabis'.

Could also be the headline, but you never see that in the news.

Also, isn't being stoned actually just a form of psychosis anyway?

Another also... FYI psychosis is a very broad medical term.

I think this discussion is very healthy, if you exclude all the trolling. We've come a long way when it comes to talking about drugs.

It is a complex issue, and turning it into a simplistic 'it's either good or bad' kind of discussion is just dumb.
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:25 am

sigbowls wrote:i think im going to washington to get some weed from the weed shop. theres no bus that goes there and ill have to walk
i bought the weed then it fell out of my pocket. im going there again before jail or whatever it is for a dirty ua being in diversion
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by hifi » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:39 am

everyone i know that smokes is fucking insane

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by hifi » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:51 am

out of the few things im proud of (e.g. heterosexual, male, etc), non smoking is 1 of them

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:57 am

i agree with being a male and being straight but smoking weed wat. u mad m5
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nobody » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:10 am

hifi wrote:out of the few things im proud of (e.g. heterosexual, male, etc), non smoking is 1 of them
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nowaysj » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:24 am

jsml wrote:24% of new psychosis cases linked with psychosis
I rest my case.
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:30 am

i gave a homeless man some money and someone free weed. i was pretty nice tonight
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