So funny, I was going to start a "Any jaded junglists on this forum?' thread!
Obviously there is.
I'm agreeing with pretty much everything you guys are saying. No real surprise that I've been drawn to this new sound. For me, dubstep has the odd, distincive beats, mystery and atmosphere that were the key elements that drew me to DnB. Those same elements have been in astonishingly low supply in the past 5-6 yrs. of DnB. (bar a few excellent producers)
Yeah, for me it definately comes down to the beats - this is the defining element of both styles. When I first heard DnB/Jungle, I liked it because to me it didn't sound like "dance music". It just sounded like this mad, hyperactive future contortion of hip hop. Dubstep is the same - for a style which falls under the umbrella of dance music, it's a pretty damn unconventional style of dance music.
Sadly, DnB now sounds exactly like formulaic dance music. Week after week bucket loads of disposable rave fodder is churned out by many of the big (and small) UK labels. In most tracks the importance of the breakbeat has been so diminished that the producers are kidding themself to think that they are producing a form of breakbeat music. The saddest thing of all is how some of DnB's true innovators of the nineties make and play the most generic dance music imaginable.
I sincerely hope that those who are leading dubstep into the future retain their integrity and continue to produce the great music that we all love so much.
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(ps: Tate, how were Seba and Paradox? They are two of the few DnB producers which I still have a lot of respect for. Wicked producers.)