REC: cartridge for sampling

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Sun May 04, 2008 11:51 pm

so im buying a technics 1200 mk 2 but i'm new to the turntable game. its going to be primarily for sampling, but i'm sure ill get to scratching on it a bit to create some new sounds. anyone have any recommendations on a good/cheaper cartridge?

if i was mistaken in not finding something through search, tell me i'm a n00b and i'll look harder

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon May 05, 2008 12:03 am

stanton 500's

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon May 05, 2008 5:11 am

for sampling i'd recommend a decent belt drive with an audiophile cart
also get a record brush and some record cleaner to use pre sampling
that's the non-dj route

analogdj · Post by **analogdj** » Mon May 05, 2008 6:39 am

id probably say shure m447's, really good for scratching and just general work and play

i bought a pair about a year and a half back and they havent let me down yet, and when they do they are relativly cheap to replace

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:06 am

Analogdj wrote:id probably say shure m447's, really good for scratching and just general work and play

i bought a pair about a year and a half back and they havent let me down yet, and when they do they are relativly cheap to replace

great djing carts, but when it comes to sampling they color the sound

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:33 am

Sounds like a huge waste of money to buy a 1200 just for sampling.
Consider buying a Numark TT200 or a Stanton T60 instead. They're both direct drive so you can scratch on them if you like.

Now you've saved plenty of money, get a good cartridge: Ortofon CC DJ/S.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:47 am

yeah, agreed. not just a waste of money, but probably not even the most suitable. technics r the standard for DJing for many good reasons (durability, dependability), but these r not necessarily the qualities u need for sampling. clarity of sound is what counts

tho, having said that. i use 1210s just cos thats what i had already. but i wouldnt have bought them if i was just gonna from em

evoh_1 · Post by **evoh_1** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:16 am

shure m44-g defo great quality

evoh_1 · Post by **evoh_1** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:30 am

shure m44-g defo great quality

batfink · Post by **batfink** » Tue May 06, 2008 2:00 pm

some proper nonsense here.

dj carts don't give the best sound quality. audiophile carts do. if you want the best sound quality for sampling you want an audiophile cart, and you want to treat it good. no backcueing, scratching and be ultra gentle at all times - they are designed for optimum sound, not putting up with cackhanded scratching attempts.

technics range of direct drive truntables (SP150s, 1100s, 1200s, 1210s) are actually very good sounding decks. the thing holding most of them back is:

a) dj cartridges don't sound great
b) people run them through a budget/midrange mixer, rather than a good quality seperate phono stage ( starting with NAD, Project, Camridge Audio and working up to the likes of Dino, Linn, Naim, Mark levinson etc )

look here for some serious tweakery:

http://hifiwigwam.com/view_topic.php?id ... light=1210

i think there's some recommendations for cartridges in that thread, and also have a look on www.zerogain.com for more info.

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:08 pm

thanks for the info everyone. havent been ontheboards for a while

the reason im buying the deck is because its from a friend for $100 and all it needs is cartridge and needle.. if you think im still dumb go sit on your thumb

docwra · Post by **docwra** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:32 pm

Analogdj wrote:id probably say shure m447's, really good for scratching and just general work and play

i bought a pair about a year and a half back and they havent let me down yet, and when they do they are relativly cheap to replace

What he said. They will never let you down and are industry standard for scratching

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:12 pm

Don't buy those for samplling. Waste of money.

If you dj though, it's the right choice.

tempest · Post by **tempest** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:28 am

Johnny Beat wrote:Don't buy those for samplling. Waste of money.

If you dj though, it's the right choice.

100 bucks tho !!! sounds like the right choice no matter what

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:35 am

A $100 1200 mk 2 sounds fishy!

abstractsound · Post by **abstractsound** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:36 pm

well i'll have you all know that my $100 technics 1200 mkII is working like a charm with my shure m97xe cartridge.. samples sound good and the deck works perfectly. theres nothing fishy about this deal. a good friend of mine had it lying around for a couple years with no use to him since he has 2 mk5s. if you still think it was dumb than you have too much time to hate on message boards

and to rub it in all your faces. the day i picked it up i got a call from a friend who happened to have the same deck and sold it to me for $80.. so i got two perfectly functioning mkIIs for $180

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