eye opening experience...

phobic · Post by **phobic** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:47 pm

dunno if its been posted about on here before or not, dunno if everything on this should be taken as the truth...but this award winning movie has changed the way I look at things and maybe given me some answers that I have been looking for....

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

give it a watch..... allow the first 5 - 10 minutes...... see what u think.

kins83 · Post by **kins83** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:51 pm

If you don't believe everything on there you are brain washed, blinkered pissant.

How did I do Parson?

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:06 pm

it was alright but nothing exactly earth-shattering. it takes a few massive leaps of imagination as well

i found the 3 punch combo of Did Jesus Die?, The Power of Nightmares and The Trap : Whatever Happened to Our Dreams of Freedom? to be a much more interesting watch

psyolopher · Post by **psyolopher** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:08 pm

Some of this material is weak though, still interesting to watch!

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:15 pm

Did Jesus Die - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... igLg9rykCw

The Power of Nightmares Part 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... iwL--5GWCw

The Power of Nightmares Part 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... jQLw-9igCw

The Power of Nightmares Part 3 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... jQKHyqGDCw

The Trap part 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... WbCw&hl=en

The Trap part 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... WbCw&hl=en

The Trap part 3 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... WbCw&hl=en

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:16 pm

i harp on about it to anyone who'll listen but Did Jesus Die is sick

phobic · Post by **phobic** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:23 pm

standard...I'll check those out 2moro after work...its a bit late here in Tokyo to trawl thru them now! thanks for the links

boy_arena · Post by **boy_arena** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:36 pm

Yea it was posted a while back, very deep.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:58 pm

zeitgeist is like a kindergarten lesson for people who are really really out of touch.

it tries to cover way too much information and offers a lil more speculation than i'm comfortable with. it does touch on important points though about the similarity between religions, the federal reserve, and some key points about how 9-11 was clearly an inside job. its hard to care to communicate with people who still believe it was terrorists.

right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:23 pm

i thought it was on the mark - apart from the 9/11 thing - more likely the barn door was left open rather than a direct invovement -
but i do like to try and ruin peoples fun

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:26 pm

Parson wrote:right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real

yeah it does take the existence of Jesus & his apostles for granted, which is something that I realise many people don't believe (and something I personally do).

I liked the buddhism stuff in it, though. similar to the horus stuff but with more tangible evidence of it in the fundamentals of the christian faith

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:28 pm

lol at DARPA just forgetting to check for terrorist attacks on the pentagon for a day

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:31 pm

pk wrote:
Parson wrote:right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real
yeah it does take the existence of Jesus & his apostles for granted, which is something that I realise many people don't believe (and something I personally do).

I liked the buddhism stuff in it, though. similar to the horus stuff but with more tangible evidence of it in the fundamentals of the christian faith

i'm not finished watching it yet and i could be paying more attention to it but i don't question the existence of jesus so much as i question a lot of the understanding about him. like st paul. he was the guy who was preaching against gnosticism. he didn't like gnosticism because it taught reincarnation.

personally i think jesus was a reincarnation of horus. and thoth and enoch, and all kinds of other dudes who came down and tried to teach some good stuff.

yeah i also think they're alien souls :]

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:33 pm

Parson wrote:lol at DARPA just forgetting to check for terrorist attacks on the pentagon for a day

that's a pretty big assumption though isn't it? that they're able to foresee and prevent any given terrorist attack

i don't see it as that mad a suggestion that the pentagon/wtc attacks were a monumental demonstration of the fallibility of military intelligence

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:34 pm

all a plane has to do is leave its course for 3 minutes and it will get shot down by jetfighters

don't be so naive

this was even predicted by the X-FILES earlier that year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZ205ccX8M

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:36 pm

i suppose these planes were equpped with thermite that cut through the building foundations like a knife through butter too

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:37 pm

Parson wrote:personally i think jesus was a reincarnation of horus. and thoth and enoch, and all kinds of other dudes who came down and tried to teach some good stuff.

yeah i also think they're alien souls :]

yeah I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea that he's a hypothetical amalgamation of various different mythological figures, but the starting point of that almalgamation is what troubles me about that theory. like how & why would it start? i find it much more likely that he was a decent bloke who actually existed, who the tibetans believed to be the dalai lama & whose mythological status was built up inordinately by his power-hungry followers

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm

Parson wrote:all a plane has to do is leave its course for 3 minutes and it will get shot down by jetfighters

don't be so naive

surely that's a post-wtc/pentagon rule, though?

i'd have thought it was naive to believe that the military is completely infallible when it wants to be

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm

no thats not recent lol

dude

srsly

pk · Post by pk » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm

Parson wrote:i suppose these planes were equpped with thermite that cut through the building foundations like a knife through butter too

pressure & heat

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