Buying new bass bins

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:00 pm

Im thinking about some new speakers for my student house, but i need something not to expensive with a big sound and big bass

but would these be ovekill? or poor sound?

it would be great if i could have some advice or alternatives guys

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-600W-BASS-BIN ... ingPayment

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:03 pm

my mate has a 15" sub in his room, its fuking massive!

it makes everyfing in his room shake, and he hardly uses it as it is too loud and has the police come round because they av recived complants about the noise, and he dnt even live in a built up area.

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:18 pm

or how about these?

http://www.djstore.com/item/speakers_mo ... gt1002.htm

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:23 pm

both pairs of speakers you have posted are complete shit. save your money up and get a better quality speaker imo.

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:28 pm

Serox wrote:both pairs of speakers you have posted are complete shit. save your money up and get a better quality speaker imo.

i agree

u will just end up spending the same amount when those break and u buy another pair.

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:30 pm

how much would you recomend i spend then?

greenseed · Post by **greenseed** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:31 pm

i just got krk vxt8s and they are sik as fui

600 canadian off ebay
regular 1500

concept_ · Post by **concept_** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:35 am

why you would buy just bassbins i don't really understand.
If you really care about listening to music, get some reference monitors. Like someone else mentioned, massive subs etc. aren't worth it due to complaints and the excess volume..unless you live in a club and want to damage your hearings whenever you listen to music.

I just got some KRK RP6 monitors off ebay over the weekend (long time coming) and they are superb. Not the biggest wattage but the sound is crisp as, with great levels and they are very powerful for their size. Look into some reference monitor speakers if it is jsut for a room at your student house.

here's a a start:

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/speakers/?qs=1

chamclowder · Post by **chamclowder** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:39 am

Go with Klipsch 5.1 surround... I think they come with like an 8-12" Sub. I currently have a 12" hooked up and it's more than I need for listening to music.

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:33 am

well i actually wanted to use it to plug put into my applifier to accompany my monitors and existing sub, i jsut want a more powerfull bass that will fill the house

oh and im nto planning to use these for daily use, jsut house parties

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:03 pm

what serox said.

do you have an amplifier for your sub already? if not you will need an amplifier and a sub, or an active sub.

what are you going to use to make sure that the sub signal goes to the sub, and the mid bass, mid and treble go to your monitors? i.e. do you have a crossover?

if not you will be sending bass through your monitors, which means the amps in (or going to) the monitors will have to work harder, and the speakers will reach xmax (their mechanical excursion limit) at a lower power. you're better off using a crossover (eg behringer DCX2496) as this will improve the response of your monitors and allow you to integrate your sub properly, adding delay etc. if the sub is in a different place to the mains.

if you're serious about using this system for house parties and you are doing this on a tight budget, buying second hand processing (2nd hand DCX2496) and amp and then building your subwoofer would be a good option. you could do this for around £460. this will be suitable for house parties and give lots of flexibility for future changes to the setup.

if you want something for production only, you can buy an active sub. if you're spending £100 - £150, get something small and high quality, not the biggest speaker with the highest power rating you can find. if you spend more than £200 you can start looking at bigger better stuff. if you haven't got decent monitors already though, that'd be utterly pointless.

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:32 am

well heres what i have planned

put the sub through my amp (with cross over) in the man line out from the mixer, then put my satellites through the booth line. this i so that i can put as much power to the sub with ought blowing my satellites.

do you thin i should get another smaller amp for the satellites if i did it this way with its own cross over?

i think this would probably end up cheaper, but im sure there are flaws in it.

so with the DCX2496 can i send certain frequencies to different speakers?

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:12 pm

Brass Monkey wrote:well heres what i have planned

put the sub through my amp (with cross over)

sorry you lost me mate, what crossover is it and where in the signal path does it go?

Brass Monkey wrote:
so with the DCX2496 can i send certain frequencies to different speakers?

yes but not quite, you're actually sending certain frequencies to different amps, they then amplify the signal and send it to the speakers.

so it goes mixer > active crossover (like the DCX2496) > amps > speakers. so you'd need two amps, one for your sub and one for your mains.

in case it helps to understand, at the moment what you have is mixer > amps > passive crossover (these are inside your speakers) > speakers.

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:27 pm

find a decent make of speakers and check reviews of them. If you can try and have a listen to them. Turnkey is quite good for letting you go thru speakers with ur own CD.

shit speakers like the ones above will not play all freqs and will just sound like a wet fart.

Ashburner · Post by **Ashburner** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:27 pm

about 4 years ago i used to do mobile djing, with the following:

http://www.discostudio.co.uk/item.php?upn=15419
a pair of these which i got for £99 ex display from htfr.com

and the cheapest horriblist 500w rms amp i could find on ebay for about £80.

They filled out huge function rooms very nicely at nowhere near full volume.

Now i have them in my student house, run my decks and pc through them everyday, and they are SO loud and have hosted so many house parties that i'd never consider selling them... i wouldn't get much money for them, and theyre too much fun!

plus they haven't ever broken on me, and they have taken a pure battering since day one.

you can probably get better speakers for the money these days, i don't know, but i hope that helped.

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:02 pm

right i see, now i understand that far more

ive been told its a simple active crossover built into my amp, but it has the frequency type sliders on the front

so would buying another similar medium quality amp with an active (or passive) crossover for my satellites and have them controling seperate frequencies seperatly be a cheaper way of doing so, or would i be completly wasting my time?

becasue to be honest i cant really afford a high end active cross over

sorry if im completly confsuing you or using incorrect terms, i jsut dont know the technicle names for things

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:03 pm

and thanks mashdub, thats a big help mate!

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:10 pm

ah right so you have an active crossover in your amp already, wicked that might save you quite a bit of cash

do you know range the crossover in your amp works in (you'll want something between 70 and 150 hz). also, the low frequency signal that it sends out - is it an amplified signal ready to send to speakers, or is it on an RCA cable? if it's on an RCA cable you could buy an active sub, if not just a passive sub.

mashdub those soundlabs are a running joke in the PA world but if they've served you well for loads of good parties i can't really diss them!

Ashburner · Post by **Ashburner** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:40 pm

that doesn't suprise me, they certainly look like a joke

couldn't complain at that price though!

brass monkey · Post by **brass monkey** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:09 pm

ill have a look at that when i get darkmatter, but it does sound like the way forward

haha mashdub i thin i saw those in cash converters in birmingham a couple of years back

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