ROLLCALL...producers/labels/releases

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:31 pm

Just wondering...

how big is the actual scene of people making the music ???
how many labels are there putting out the music ???
how many releases do labels average a year ???

...then tell me how long you estimate it will take for dubstep to infiltrate the public consciousness based on extrapolating those figures based solely on vinyl releases...

orson · Post by **orson** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:39 am

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dudeski · Post by **dudeski** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:58 am

'bout 3 weeks

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:17 am

orson wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

exzzzZZZactly...^^^thats me between each big release

I reckon theres maybe only 10 labels, less than 20 producers and maybe 3-6 releases a month...

...given that, I don't think it'll ever achieve a critical mass enough to make an impression on public consciousness, especially if it's vinyl based and you can't really dance to it

but you know what's really tiring Orson ???

...all the ads and postings about gigs and radios shows and nothing else

it didn't take long for this place to become just another noticeboard as opposed to a discussion forum...

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:58 am

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:16 am

funnily enough I just finished checking out BD's blog...

.... it seems he thinks dubstep is to far down the trak to be able to change it's course so will be destined to ride through the underground without the mainstream overdwellers ever seeing the light

looking forward to the CD compilations...

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:58 am

ital
hyperdub
dmz
hotflush
boka
army
truetiger
terrorhythm
planet mu
subtext

all ^^ those labels release on mp3 now. what are you still crying about?

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:02 am

Did I ask how many labels release on mp3 ???

...seems some idiots need to learn how to read

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:12 am

dubmugga wrote:Did I ask how many labels release on mp3 ???

...seems some idiots need to learn how to read

since day one on this forum you've had issues with dubplate culture and vinyl releases. stop talking about this scene likes it's living in the past. i don't think you've any idea about how hard it is to run a label and lock down distribution. it's not like these dubstep labels are trying to make millions of dollars. all they're trying to do is break even.

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:28 am

Actually seckle, i ran label...

...released 2 Cd's, a single, 3 music videos, licensed trax to a few labels, organised tours, gigs, locked down distribution, managed artists and made sure we got paid but that's beside the point

cos really whats there not to have issues about vinyl dubplate culture with ???

It's archaic, elitist, exclusive and slow to react to customer demand...

...so what if I think this scene is living in the past because it inherited a legacy from other forms of UK culturally based electronic music genres. It's not gonna change by me pissing in the wind so answer me this

what is it doing differently that other scenes aren't ???

and who in it is leading the charge to change things for the future ???

what's the benefits in vinyl and dubplate culture ???

^^^ I don't think you really want to go there cos we been over this before, you know what I think...

...besides no one has been able to counter it effectively, just ignore it and hope for the best but if you had cancer would you do that ???

even · Post by **even** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:12 pm

Hi dubmugga.

I dont know you and i dont what to know you. But seriously mate you need some good manners. You ar disrespectful to anyone on this forum.
I see no reason to bring in a grimey angry attitude. Dubstep is one unity. lets keep it like that.

consider it bro.

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:04 pm

You make some valid and interesting points re. dubplate culture Dubmugga.

But perhaps more people would listen if you voiced your opinions without resorting to dissing those with contrasting views.

Just a thought.

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:08 pm

even wrote:Hi dubmugga.

you need some good manners. You are disrespectful to anyone on this forum. I see no reason to bring in a grimey angry attitude.
consider it bro.

all things considered you will never know me from evaluating words on a screen and that's what i'm dealing with...virtual reality percieved as reality. the grimey angry attitude is my hiphop self defense mechanisms kicking in. Tit for tat.

remind me why i need good manners on the net for ??? incidentally that brings to mind a comment a friend of mine made

about the "cyberisation" of traditional social virtues like
politeness, wisdom, foresight, etc. As opposed to the dark and trivial and
myopic aspects of the net that we are all familiar with.

So in a sense, take social psychology/anthropology which is usually applied
to ordinary people and ordinary societies and apply it to an analysis of the
internet as an emerging global mind.

^^^ to do with a little experiment we may conduct on scale free networks applied to the internet

thanx even and to you too citizen

but dissing people with contrasting views makes for better entertainment and discussion by personalising opinions rather than just point/counterpoint supported by detached, reasoned argument...*yawn*

...people listen but most don't hear past the words being used just like some forms of music.

If you don't want to hear or know something bad, shoot the messenger, pretend things are all good in the hood and carry on bidness as usual...

... but don't then wonder why things aren't working out for the best somewhere down the trak

unlikely · Post by **unlikely** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:16 pm

are you a WACO surviver or something dubmugga?

Citrus Boy · Post by **Citrus Boy** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:20 pm

sorry chaps but I gotta agree with dubmugga here..

freedom of speech an all that...

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:26 pm

Borg wrote:freedom of speech an all that...

Noone's arguing with the right to free speech.

Even's just making the point that if you come across with a bad / aggro attitude, people don't really want to bother with you.

I've stopped reading what Dubmugga is saying - he goes on about how he's trying to stir up a bit of conversation, but in fact he's switching a lot of people off it. I just can't be arsed trying any more so I'll chat to others instead.

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:43 pm

unlikely wrote:are you a WACO surviver or something dubmugga?

yeah bro...

...I'm actually David Koresh who escaped through an unknown tunnel, moved to NZ, started making dubstep and am now getting all angsty about it cos G*d hung me out to dry

thinking...

... that is the lamest excuse for not being able to discuss relevent issues ever. What a fucking copout !!!

Tell you what, just keep on with your inane chat to others and let the adults do all the serious discussing. I don't do chat very well and there seem to be less adults around here willing to discuss anything of note...

...I mean really why not just shut the fuck up then and not post anything if you're not willing to discuss the thread topic or the points being raised in it ???

stop kidding yourself that you've stopped reading what i write. You know I'm like your favourite net soap opera. You don't want to but you can't help wanting to know what'll happen next and try answering these questions instead...

what is the dubstep scene doing differently that other scenes aren't ???

and who in it is leading the charge to change things for the future as opposed to recycling the past ???

what's the benefits in vinyl and dubplate culture ???

even · Post by **even** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:05 pm

^let the adults do all the serious discussing^
Dubmugga sorry but its not a adult serious conversation. To start a topic where peeps need to reply. And when they do you say bare stupid thingz.
That is a oneway childish conversation.

No matter where your from that not a excuse to b disrespectful to anyone whit a other opinion of yours.

deesh · Post by **deesh** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:05 pm

Your outside, staring into a sonic incubator. How can you relate....?

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:14 pm

try not to be sidetracked by the childish antics or make this all about me and stay on topic even...

and what the hell are you on deesh ???

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