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Postby daft cunt » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:16 pm

If you want to add a model plz give its name, pros, cons & average price (new).
Thanks everybody!

AKG
K-240s ~120$
Pros: Wide frequency response, removable cables, used a lot.
Much better for producing (than the HD-25s), a lot flatter, so it doesn't have the beautiful (but fake) bass of the 25s. Also doesn't crush my ears like a 150kg boxer.
Cons: Tend to make you a bit hot lol


Beyerdynamic
DT990 PRO ~220$ or 150 Euro
Pros: comfortable, very solid bass response, wide frequency range
Cons: haven't found any so far! I find them suitable for mixdowns


Samson
RH300
Pros: Cost-effective, auto-adjust mechanism so very light and comfortable, can balance well bass levels on it. Sounds muddy if mixdown is not well balanced
Cons: Aggressive, fatiguing high end. I shelf highs while producing because they're pinching. This is not to be compared with AKG-240s and likes, its a bargain (can find it as low as 25€)

CH70/700
Pros: The most cost-effective 'studio' headphone. Enough comfortable, similar in behaviour to rh300. Very small, the ideal for the nomadic producer I think. Not fatiguing as the RH300. CH700 is the bigger brother of CH70, you only get bass and more distinct stereo image. Gets VERY muddy if mix is not perfect. Its difficult to calibrate decaying sounds on it (reverb/delays)
Cons: It costs really low so its cons are a consequence of it


Sennheiser
HD-25 ~ €150
Pros: solid built, great for djing, good for producing by night if you have thin walls and neighbours on the other side.
Cons: not suitable for mixdowns, some people complain they can't wear for more than a couple of hours (tho I have no problem after several hours).

HD 600 ~ £180
Pro's: Sound like sex. Comfortable, Frequency range is amazing goes all the way from 20-2000 Hz (and made my ears bleed at 15,000Hz !)
Con's: Expensive at around £180
HD 600 crew - get the HD650 cable, makes a very nice difference for only £20 or so
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Postby daft cunt » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:14 pm

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Postby junglist » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Sennheiser HD 600

Pro's: Sound like sex. Comfortable, Frequency range is amazing goes all the way from 20-2000 Hz (and made my ears bleed at 15,000Hz !)
Con's: Expensive at around £180
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Postby Disco Nutter » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:08 pm

AKG K-240s
120$

Cons: Wide frequency response, removable cables, used a lot.
Cons: Tend to make you a bit hot lol
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:41 pm

I used the HD25 for producing for quite some time, and just a week ago started with the 240s. Much better for producing, a lot flatter, so it doesn't have the beautiful (but fake) bass of the 25s. Also doesn't crush my ears like a 150kg boxer.

But for djing, HD25, no doubt, have almost no complaints... I just wish they had the mini XLR connection of the 240.


Daft tnuc wrote:You know the score : Model / Pros / Cons

AKG
K-240s ~120$
Pros: Wide frequency response, removable cables, used a lot.
Cons: Tend to make you a bit hot lol

Sennheiser
HD-25 ~ €150
Pros: solid built, great for djing, good for producing by night if you have thin walls and neighbours on the other side.
Cons: not suitable for mixdowns, some people complain they can't wear for more than a couple of hours (tho I have no problem after several hours).

HD 600 ~ £180
Pro's: Sound like sex. Comfortable, Frequency range is amazing goes all the way from 20-2000 Hz (and made my ears bleed at 15,000Hz !)
Con's: Expensive at around £180
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Postby cixxxj » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:55 pm

Samson RH300
Pros: Cost-effective, auto-adjust mechanism so very light and comfortable, can balance well bass levels on it. Sounds muddy if mixdown is not well balanced
Cons: Aggressive, fatiguing high end. I shelf highs while producing because they're pinching. This is not to be compared with AKG-240s and likes, its a bargain (can find it as low as 25€)

Samson CH70/700
Pros: The most cost-effective 'studio' headphone. Enough comfortable, similar in behaviour to rh300. Very small, the ideal for the nomadic producer I think. Not fatiguing as the RH300. CH700 is the bigger brother of CH70, you only get bass and more distinct stereo image. Gets VERY muddy if mix is not perfect. Its difficult to calibrate decaying sounds on it (reverb/delays)
Cons: It costs really low so its cons are a consequence of it
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Postby zion cluster » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:48 pm

And directly related is the HDPHX plug here: http://refinedaudiometrics.com/products-hdphx.shtml
It creates crosstalk like you get with speakers, essential if producing with 'phones. Credit to MACC for posting it on DOA, but I haven't seen it here.
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:56 pm

zion cluster wrote:And directly related is the HDPHX plug here: http://refinedaudiometrics.com/products-hdphx.shtml
It creates crosstalk like you get with speakers, essential if producing with 'phones. Credit to MACC for posting it on DOA, but I haven't seen it here.


Hmmm, interesting, had never heard of that.
Will give it a try.
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Postby Disco Nutter » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:36 pm

Neat little plug in! Is it really as nice as they put it on their website? :)
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Postby zion cluster » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:08 pm

It does help with that 'in your head' feeling associated with headphones, I still find them more fatiguing than monitors, though.
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:14 pm

PC-only.
As Clay Davis used to say, shiiiiieet.
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Postby somejerk » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:19 pm

i can't use headphones, but i live alone and my next door neighbor is deaf so it works out.
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:54 pm

somejerk wrote:i can't use headphones, but i live alone and my next door neighbor is deaf so it works out.


Can I rent your neighbour?
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Postby gbass » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:55 pm

Beyerdynamic
DT990 PRO ~220$ or 150 Euro
Pros: comfortable, very solid bass response, wide frequency range
Cons: haven't found any so far! I find them suitable for mixdowns

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Postby macc » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:25 pm

Another crossfeed plugin here;

http://bs2b.sourceforge.net/

:)

If you're serious about working on headphones you have to spend money for good amplification as a priority though, no question. Various other bits and bobs too...

HD 600 crew - get the HD650 cable, makes a very nice difference for only £20 or so :)
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:36 pm

Damn, Macc! Thanks for all the tips. :o
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Postby macc » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:10 pm

I'll shut up now - from here on the tips start getting veeeerrry expensive :lol:
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Postby deadly_habit » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:13 pm

Macc wrote:I'll shut up now - from here on the tips start getting veeeerrry expensive :lol:

groupbuy for macc's tips anyone? :lol:
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Postby blip » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:14 pm

Macc wrote:I'll shut up now - from here on the tips start getting veeeerrry expensive :lol:


See, mom? You are nice and thank people and that's what happens. :wink:
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Postby macc » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:25 pm

I'm trying to consider your bank account :D
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