automation

rickyrich · Post by **rickyrich** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:58 pm

okay, so I have figured out how to make drum patterns/sounds and use a synth to make leads and wobble bass (though at early stages). But I can't figure out what automation is.

I see it quoted everywhere but have no idea what it is how it's used.

Could anyone give me a brief description and how it can be used in reason? I assume somewhere in thor you can do it?

manray · Post by **manray** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:30 pm

rickyrich wrote:Could anyone give me a brief description and how it can be used in reason? I assume somewhere in thor you can do it?

You can automate tons of stuff. A basic example would just be the volume on your mixer slider. So you can fade in the beat etc..

truncated · Post by **truncated** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:34 pm

load a malstrom press record and move the knobs.

press stop.

press play.

done.

can be done for nearly eveything as far as im aware.

beerz · Post by **beerz** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:04 pm

juss hold alt and click on the button u want to automate....thing that pisses me off is that u can hardly automate anything in the nnxt propperly

doomproduction · Post by **doomproduction** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:20 pm

you will be so chuffed when you realise how much you can do with automation

tempahproductions · Post by **tempahproductions** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:26 pm

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_qu ... type=&aq=f

automation is the key trust once u start u will never stop i never used automation for years after i played with automation for a few days i was useing it on everything

but u can over do it trust me

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:47 pm

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread

tempahproductions · Post by **tempahproductions** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:51 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread

best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:10 am

TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann

i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays

tempahproductions · Post by **tempahproductions** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:27 am

Deadly Habit wrote:
TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays

yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou

but i got a mpc 2500

truncated · Post by **truncated** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:03 am

TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou but i got a mpc 2500

oooh sp1200 sample pack please 12bit crunchy goodness

rickyrich · Post by **rickyrich** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:33 pm

Cheers guys, I wasn't expecting the definition to be that basic.

I have not even started making tunes with reason, only been messing around with thor. Still need to work out how to record tracks and make sense of the sequencer (though I would rather not use the sequencers if I don't have to).

All I have done is make some tunes in garageband to get a basic grasp of production but it's time to move on now.

I plan to use reason and pro logic express.

I have used panning and volume controls so I guess I have started automating without even realising it.

Hide_One · Post by **Hide_One** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:00 pm

On a similar subject; My micro-korg won't learn MIDI w/ Reason 4, I can use keys, mod and pitchbend bt none of the knobs. Works in massive and cubase tho.
Whats up with that?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:41 am

Keggah wrote:On a similar subject; My micro-korg won't learn MIDI w/ Reason 4, I can use keys, mod and pitchbend bt none of the knobs. Works in massive and cubase tho.
Whats up with that?

is it sending midi nrpn messages or standard (have a micron not microkorg)
if nrpn it takes some delving on the net or say a device panel in cubase to ease the headache

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 am

Truncated wrote:
TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
TempahProductions wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
simple example using kontakt and drawing in automation on lfo rate on my kontakt wobble bass tutorial in that thread
best kontakt tutorial i use my kontakt more then i ever have ur the mann
i use shortcircuit and my akai nowadays
yh i love the old sampler u have i had the Akai S3000 and a sp1200 coz the s3000 had more sample time then the sp1200 so that was to trigger samples from i still have the sp1200 but not my akai thou but i got a mpc 2500
oooh sp1200 sample pack please 12bit crunchy goodness

lol i just sold my sp202

rickyrich · Post by **rickyrich** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:28 am

I seem to be getting on alright with reason.

Figured out redrum (was a bit of a pain), got some decent wobbles on thor (which I automated using record and editing manually). And automated volume on the lead synth.

Also figured out subbass but i found it harder than doing wobbles. Still not got the sound i am looking for.

Got a few bars together. The back of the reason rack looks crazy, I somehow managed to put reverb on the snare and another reverb for the whole redrum pattern. But it seemed to work.

I find that I am getting carried away using the compressor for everything. Is this normal practice? What do you guys use compression on?

I know I am chatting a lot but so much has happened the last couple of days. I think I am addicted to learning all this stuff now.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:46 am

rickyrich wrote:I seem to be getting on alright with reason.

Figured out redrum (was a bit of a pain), got some decent wobbles on thor (which I automated using record and editing manually). And automated volume on the lead synth.

Also figured out subbass but i found it harder than doing wobbles. Still not got the sound i am looking for.

Got a few bars together. The back of the reason rack looks crazy, I somehow managed to put reverb on the snare and another reverb for the whole redrum pattern. But it seemed to work.

I find that I am getting carried away using the compressor for everything. Is this normal practice? What do you guys use compression on?

I know I am chatting a lot but so much has happened the last couple of days. I think I am addicted to learning all this stuff now.

compression i generally use for gelling a split bass back together or it's intended use
also sidechain for when i want that pumping bass/kickdrum sound
also for you automation geeks you might want to invest in a wacom tablet to draw in your automations all leet like

edit: btw flat eric is the shit

rickyrich · Post by **rickyrich** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:13 am

alright guys, well i managed to put something together. It is very basic just a few bars.

I just used reason cause i just wanna learn that first then go on to mixing in logic.

But yeah i am getting some sounds, it's not great cause i still got a lot to learn about mixing and compression etc. And i need monitors big time.

but have a listen please, on myspace. I called it X and prob won't keep it on there.

And please let me know what the big mistakes are (i am sure there are a few)

cheers

www.myspace.com/dakertone

automation

automation

Re: automation

Who is online