Ableton's Loud Output (+ free 320)

atomik chronic · Post by **atomik chronic** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:31 pm

I've noticed Ableton naturally seems to have louder output and my mixes seem many dbs louder than other peoples mixes (trying to determine if its in a bad way) even though I turn down the master -3.0db in the DAW.

I turned it down a little more than usual in my most recent tune (MIA remix) but I still hear other mixes even lower in volume.

What's your take on that? Should I start turnin shit down? It sounds fine to me when I've heard it on its own but back to back w/ someone else's stuff makes me go "hmm."

Of course I'm just very OCD with mixing so I may be overthinking the entire situation and sounding great the whole time

I've only been producing for 3 months so I'm still acquiring my own sense of judgment w/ this stuff.

320 of the MIA mix: http://rcpt.yousendit.com/669745519/c33 ... 4555f0a7af

karmacazee · Post by **karmacazee** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:15 pm

I always thought Ableton exported too quiet, lol.

atomik chronic · Post by **atomik chronic** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:32 pm

I compared it to Dubstep Allstars vol 4 and Fabriclive37 ...figuring they're decent benchmarks for pro sound. My mixes sounded louder, idk, just like.. everything in pro mixes seems more subtle.

What ver of ableton are you guys talking about?

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:32 pm

Karmacazee wrote:I always thought Ableton exported too quiet, lol.

Same here

atomik chronic · Post by **atomik chronic** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:42 pm

Watching three people "think" something is real helpful guys, thanks.

macc · Post by **macc** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:17 am

Ableton doesn't have a louder output; it obeys the same laws of digital audio as all other apps. This is a matter of gain structure.

Read this thread

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=74832

Mad_EP · Post by **Mad_EP** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:26 am

^^^

Seriously...

I've heard mixes that were HUGE from Ableton, and I have heard quiet-ass mixes... it is the mixing engineer (in most cases the composer/producer in the modern bedroom producing era) and the gain structuring they use...

I just can't believe people are still hyping on about the same myths years on...

3 years ago I had someone try to tell me that Ableton's output was inherently mushy and quiet... so I let 'em hear some Aaron Spectre / Drumcorps... they never said that shit again.

atomik chronic · Post by **atomik chronic** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:10 am

mad ep wrote:^^^

I've heard mixes that were HUGE from Ableton, and I have heard quiet-ass mixes... it is the mixing engineer (in most cases the composer/producer in the modern bedroom producing era) and the gain structuring they use...

From the beginning this thread has been more about whether or not *my* mixes in Ableton are too loud or not. I do know that Ableton's sound engine allows for much higher peaks without digital distortion. So there's the ability to make things louder without them being obviously shit.

But still this has more to do with whether or not it would be a good idea for me to turn down my _own_ mixes.

Thanks for that thread up there Macc it's helpful! Damn I want you to evaluate my mixes, lol.

baydestrian · Post by **baydestrian** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:53 pm

I always feel like my mixeds are quiet

connection · Post by **connection** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:59 pm

I'm always thinking my mixes are too quite, blah blah blah. But then I remember, that's what Vol/Gain controls were invented for...

macc · Post by **macc** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:18 pm

Atomik Chronic wrote:I do know that Ableton's sound engine allows for much higher peaks without digital distortion. So there's the ability to make things louder without them being obviously shit.

How do you know that?

Is there source for this info?

But still this has more to do with whether or not it would be a good idea for me to turn down my _own_ mixes.

Thanks for that thread up there Macc it's helpful! Damn I want you to evaluate my mixes, lol.

Consider it done... turn them down, they're clipping.

That'll be 25 quid please

abs · Post by **abs** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:09 pm

I allways thought Ableton was too quiet, when you produce a tune and then drop it back in it's pathetic compared to other peoples tunes.

also, thanks for the 320!

abs · Post by **abs** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:53 pm

mate big ups for this free tune, it's rinsing!

shredexx · Post by **shredexx** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:07 pm

yeah... ableton's quiet!!!

Ableton's Loud Output (+ free 320)

Ableton's Loud Output (+ free 320)

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