140 bpm?

deadaelus · Post by **deadaelus** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:50 pm

Why do so many producers make there tracks at exactly 140bpm?

This makes it way to easy for people to mix, and subsequently drawing the wrong type of people toward mixing dubstep.

Thoughts?

Numan · Post by **Numan** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:54 pm

what do u mean wrong type of people?

and why would u want it hard to mix?

and finally why wouldnt u keep it spot on 140?

cosmic revenge · Post by **cosmic revenge** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:55 pm

i make stuff from 135, to about 145 and anything in between. i like the slight change in tempo depending on the feel of tune im going for

abs · Post by **abs** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:59 pm

deadaelus wrote:Why do so many producers make there tracks at exactly 140bpm?

This makes it way to easy for people to mix, and subsequently drawing the wrong type of people toward mixing dubstep.

Thoughts?

it's just the way it's become standarized innit, it's a form of dance music at the end of the day, same way pretty much all jungle is 180, just the way it is

not sure what you mean about the wrong people mixing dubstep?

freqone · Post by **freqone** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:13 pm

The wrong people...????
I agree with the tempo variation depending on overall feel of the track,

skream · Post by **skream** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:15 pm

140 bpm is the speed of excessive heartrate

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:19 pm

140s standard's too fast for EVERYTHING to be at that, it's by lazy DJs for lazy DJs (it makes the music feel like a revolving platform and gets dull!). I always tap my tempos on productions to properly express myself, I'm not a midi clock and I don't like running by standard settings! Loads of grime's 125ish, you get more of a swagger at that speed.
Running everything at 140 restricts your timings too, 32nds+ sound ridiculously fast and halfing it to 70 is to ssllooowww. It also means you get dubstep that is pretty unoriginal pretty quickly (140bpm 'check', super saturated de-tuned sine waves 'check', lfo to filter cut-off and amplitude set to MAX 'check').
HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALITY or there's no point really,I flat out refuse to make my stuff's what everyone else is doing just so it fits in because that's just boring.My line is if a DJ won't spin my tune because it's not 140 then they aren't good enough (and I know DJs that are actually like that unfortunately and I bet there's more)

drokkr · Post by **drokkr** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:21 pm

deadaelus wrote:drawing the wrong type of people toward mixing dubstep

what?

cosmic revenge · Post by **cosmic revenge** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:22 pm

Pallms · Post by **Pallms** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:22 pm

I think having it be so strictly tied to 140bpm draws more creativity. It's one less thing people change to make their tracks original, forcing them to work with other aspects of the track for originality.

Plus, it makes for nice mixing and every track is heard the way it's supposed to. Too many times have I heard hip-hop mixes where two songs are mixed with maybe a 10 or 15bpm difference and one track is played out slower or faster than it was produced at. That's not how the producer intended the track to be played...

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:23 pm

If you're playing off decks then you're probably not playing at 140 anyway and most tunes you get as 320s that are at 140bpm are never at 140 bpm when they get released.

It's like Kode9 says "i only want to talk processed cheese so fuck off"

skrewface · Post by **skrewface** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:26 pm

Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me

shambandito · Post by **shambandito** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:28 pm

TEST RECORDINGS wrote: It also means you get dubstep that is pretty unoriginal pretty quickly (140bpm 'check', super saturated de-tuned sine waves 'check', lfo to filter cut-off and amplitude set to MAX 'check').
HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALITY or there's no point really

don't really agree with you there.. just cause your speed is at 140bpm doesn't automatically mean that your losing individuality. dubstep has so many versatile and different artists to offer and still most of it sits around 140.. mala 140 / bar9 140.. two completely different styles of dubstep but still the tempo is about the same.. every dance/electronic music genre has a rough outline of where the speed is supposed to be.
in dnb i would say 170-180, in house it's about 120-130.. and in dubstep it just happens to be ca. 135-145.. don't really understand what the problem is..
if you can't express yourself in your music unless the speed is different then i reckon that's a different problem
Obviously a +/- range of 5-10 bpm is normal and it's good that not EVERY dubstep song is at exactly 140..

__________ · Post by **__________** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:32 pm

who gives a fuck what tempo a tune is at?
same tempo = easier to mix quickly = more interesting set
i like to mix quickly, and tunes at the same tempo makes this easier.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:35 pm

is this the worst thread ever?

constrobuz · Post by **constrobuz** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:39 pm

and every fucking tune at same tempo = boring as shit

i can't believe people are defending this rigid tempo rule. let's compress all of our tunes and make them all the same volume. and let's make sure they're all in 4/4 and the key of C major too eh?

asa · Post by **asa** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:44 pm

Is'nt your biggest releae to date at 140 Mr.Daedelus.........

a certain 'Hrs Mins Secs'

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:47 pm

Joe C wrote:is this the worst thread ever?

Yes

__________ · Post by **__________** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:47 pm

Constrobuz wrote:and every fucking tune at same tempo = boring as shit

i can't believe people are defending this rigid tempo rule. let's compress all of our tunes and make them all the same volume. and let's make sure they're all in 4/4 and the key of C major too eh?

what's your idea then? make tunes in 5/7, don't master them, and change the tempo half way through the track to be ''interesting'' ???

not buying or playing a tune because its at the 'wrong' tempo is fucking ridiculous

gav_35 · Post by **gav_35** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:48 pm

Constrobuz wrote:and every fucking tune at same tempo = boring as shit

i can't believe people are defending this rigid tempo rule. let's compress all of our tunes and make them all the same volume. and let's make sure they're all in 4/4 and the key of C major too eh?

Good idea

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