140 bpm?
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Re: 140 bpm?
it's just the way it's become standarized innit, it's a form of dance music at the end of the day, same way pretty much all jungle is 180, just the way it isdeadaelus wrote:Why do so many producers make there tracks at exactly 140bpm?
This makes it way to easy for people to mix, and subsequently drawing the wrong type of people toward mixing dubstep.
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not sure what you mean about the wrong people mixing dubstep?
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140 bpm is the speed of excessive heartrate 

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140s standard's too fast for EVERYTHING to be at that, it's by lazy DJs for lazy DJs (it makes the music feel like a revolving platform and gets dull!). I always tap my tempos on productions to properly express myself, I'm not a midi clock and I don't like running by standard settings! Loads of grime's 125ish, you get more of a swagger at that speed.
Running everything at 140 restricts your timings too, 32nds+ sound ridiculously fast and halfing it to 70 is to ssllooowww. It also means you get dubstep that is pretty unoriginal pretty quickly (140bpm 'check', super saturated de-tuned sine waves 'check', lfo to filter cut-off and amplitude set to MAX 'check').
HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALITY or there's no point really,I flat out refuse to make my stuff's what everyone else is doing just so it fits in because that's just boring.My line is if a DJ won't spin my tune because it's not 140 then they aren't good enough (and I know DJs that are actually like that unfortunately and I bet there's more)
Running everything at 140 restricts your timings too, 32nds+ sound ridiculously fast and halfing it to 70 is to ssllooowww. It also means you get dubstep that is pretty unoriginal pretty quickly (140bpm 'check', super saturated de-tuned sine waves 'check', lfo to filter cut-off and amplitude set to MAX 'check').
HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALITY or there's no point really,I flat out refuse to make my stuff's what everyone else is doing just so it fits in because that's just boring.My line is if a DJ won't spin my tune because it's not 140 then they aren't good enough (and I know DJs that are actually like that unfortunately and I bet there's more)
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what?deadaelus wrote:drawing the wrong type of people toward mixing dubstep
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I think having it be so strictly tied to 140bpm draws more creativity. It's one less thing people change to make their tracks original, forcing them to work with other aspects of the track for originality.
Plus, it makes for nice mixing and every track is heard the way it's supposed to. Too many times have I heard hip-hop mixes where two songs are mixed with maybe a 10 or 15bpm difference and one track is played out slower or faster than it was produced at. That's not how the producer intended the track to be played...
Plus, it makes for nice mixing and every track is heard the way it's supposed to. Too many times have I heard hip-hop mixes where two songs are mixed with maybe a 10 or 15bpm difference and one track is played out slower or faster than it was produced at. That's not how the producer intended the track to be played...
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don't really agree with you there.. just cause your speed is at 140bpm doesn't automatically mean that your losing individuality. dubstep has so many versatile and different artists to offer and still most of it sits around 140.. mala 140 / bar9 140.. two completely different styles of dubstep but still the tempo is about the same.. every dance/electronic music genre has a rough outline of where the speed is supposed to be.TEST RECORDINGS wrote: It also means you get dubstep that is pretty unoriginal pretty quickly (140bpm 'check', super saturated de-tuned sine waves 'check', lfo to filter cut-off and amplitude set to MAX 'check').
HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALITY or there's no point really
in dnb i would say 170-180, in house it's about 120-130.. and in dubstep it just happens to be ca. 135-145.. don't really understand what the problem is..
if you can't express yourself in your music unless the speed is different then i reckon that's a different problem
Obviously a +/- range of 5-10 bpm is normal and it's good that not EVERY dubstep song is at exactly 140..
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what's your idea then? make tunes in 5/7, don't master them, and change the tempo half way through the track to be ''interesting'' ???Constrobuz wrote:and every fucking tune at same tempo = boring as shit
i can't believe people are defending this rigid tempo rule. let's compress all of our tunes and make them all the same volume. and let's make sure they're all in 4/4 and the key of C major too eh?
not buying or playing a tune because its at the 'wrong' tempo is fucking ridiculous
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