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sub-genres of dubstep

Post by bass hertz » Mon May 25, 2009 8:26 pm

what has not been touched yet?? I cant think of anything. I can remember all the years of watching DNB develop and progress into some many styles. From techstep and jazzstep to clownstep and liquid funk... you never could predict the next level. As of of now I just think dubstep is focused on INCORPORATING other styles and reworking tired genres. or maybe I am wrong.

btw, what's the current dubstep equivelant of LTJ Bukem? Intelligent stuff.

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Post by deadly_habit » Mon May 25, 2009 8:31 pm

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Post by DZA » Mon May 25, 2009 8:41 pm

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Post by futures_untold » Mon May 25, 2009 8:44 pm

In b4 Alpaham! :)

Seriously, not enough world music/dubstep/d'n'b crossovers.... Or is that called fusion?!! :o

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Post by bass hertz » Mon May 25, 2009 9:00 pm

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anyways...
i wouldn't mind Tangerine Dream taking on an attempt at a dubstep track. They did do a dnb track on their last album (booster).

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Post by bass hertz » Mon May 25, 2009 9:25 pm

then how about... umm... sub genders??

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Post by slothrop » Mon May 25, 2009 9:51 pm

I get kind of wound up by the militant paranoia about sub-genrefication tbh. I don't think there's any real advantage in breaking everything down to the nth degree, but noone forces producers or DJs to make generic, predictable records. If they don't want to be labelled and put in boxes, they shouldn't write predictable tunes or play homogeneous sets.

Whereas when loads of DJs are playing entire sets of by-numbers aggy wobble or entire sets of by-numbers dubby garage they can't exactly turn round and blame people talking air on the internet for making things predictable.

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Post by collige » Mon May 25, 2009 9:59 pm

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Post by glottis5 » Mon May 25, 2009 10:04 pm

Slothrop wrote:I get kind of wound up by the militant paranoia about sub-genrefication tbh. I don't think there's any real advantage in breaking everything down to the nth degree, but noone forces producers or DJs to make generic, predictable records. If they don't want to be labelled and put in boxes, they shouldn't write predictable tunes or play homogeneous sets.

Whereas when loads of DJs are playing entire sets of by-numbers aggy wobble or entire sets of by-numbers dubby garage they can't exactly turn round and blame people talking air on the internet for making things predictable.
Interesting things happen when disparate styles and sounds get together and influence each other, which happens a lot less when every sound has it's own box (subgenre).

also, bruvstep should be the official name of the caspa and rusko sound

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Post by slothrop » Mon May 25, 2009 10:11 pm

glottis5 wrote:
Slothrop wrote:I get kind of wound up by the militant paranoia about sub-genrefication tbh. I don't think there's any real advantage in breaking everything down to the nth degree, but noone forces producers or DJs to make generic, predictable records. If they don't want to be labelled and put in boxes, they shouldn't write predictable tunes or play homogeneous sets.

Whereas when loads of DJs are playing entire sets of by-numbers aggy wobble or entire sets of by-numbers dubby garage they can't exactly turn round and blame people talking air on the internet for making things predictable.
Interesting things happen when disparate styles and sounds get together and influence each other, which happens a lot less when every sound has it's own box (subgenre).

also, bruvstep should be the official name of the caspa and rusko sound
Yeah, I guess what I'm getting at is that DSF sometimes feels like it's papering over the cracks and trying to ignore the fact the scene is genuinely dividing in a natural and real way as it grows and takes in people with very different musical interests, but that noone's allowed to mention this for fear of 'dividing up the scene'. I mean, it really doesn't feel like a Hessle Audio night and a Dub Police night are linked in a particularly meaningful way any more.

And it does always seem to be DJs and producers moaning about it, as if people talking on the internet was somehow forcing them to be predictable - it occasionally seems a bit like they're looking for someone to blame for their own lack of imagination. Or at least for the lack of imagination of some of their contemporaries.

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Post by macc » Mon May 25, 2009 10:18 pm

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Oops - thought I was in a dnb forum, sorry.


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Post by dux » Mon May 25, 2009 11:00 pm

can someone ban those stupid kid before its too late?

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Post by bass hertz » Mon May 25, 2009 11:26 pm

aight aight aight... sorrry I even brought it up.


Do I still get my dubstep yellow-belt ??

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Post by constrobuz » Mon May 25, 2009 11:54 pm

i dont know why some of you shit heads dislike subgenres so much. it's convenient. it'd be nice to have a name for the dubstep that's shit wobbles + brutal electro + offbeat stabs + stupid ass reggae/dub vocal sampes + stupid ass movie/tv samples, so i can stay away from it.

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Post by yellowhighlighter » Tue May 26, 2009 12:22 am

Constrobuz wrote:i dont know why some of you shit heads dislike subgenres so much. it's convenient. it'd be nice to have a name for the dubstep that's shit wobbles + brutal electro + offbeat stabs + stupid ass reggae/dub vocal sampes + stupid ass movie/tv samples, so i can stay away from it.
well sub-genres exist a lot more in EDM because the music is played mainly at clubs by DJs. it is easier to have sub-genres because it allows the club goers and DJs know what they are getting themselves into to. drum n bass has a fair few offshoots and most of them are rubbish. i just call it all dnb.

the same should be true of dubstep. there have been actual topics on this forum about wheter or not to place your snare on the 3 because if you tried anything different it would make it less likely your tune would get played. lazy DJs promote lazy producers when it comes to dance music.

the problem with sub-genres is that they basically encourage people to become copy cats. in a sense all the sub genres of the underground dance scene mimic the large pop music groups churned out by the massive record labels. if somebody tries something different in a song it doesn't have to become a new sub genre. the very minute that happens it gives people the right to rip it off completely.

if you want to avoid dubstep you don't like then avoid artists you don't like. people want everything done for them.

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Post by FSTZ1 » Tue May 26, 2009 12:49 am

+1 for bruvstep!

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Post by deadly_habit » Tue May 26, 2009 12:52 am

i like cackstep

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Post by constrobuz » Tue May 26, 2009 12:53 am

there will be copy cats regardless of a subgenres existence.

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