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Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:58 pm
by alien pimp
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:procedures similar to these are/were used by tribes in many continents as far as i know, but apparently is impossible to TRIPLE the volume of the skull due to lack of bone mass, as donas makes a very believable point in the video

really, it's a loooong list of discoveries there i've been asking of ways to fit them in the official history... even if this was a doubtful issue [and it isn't], the conclusion is still obvious, why is it so hard for some to accept it? why is it so important for people to believe in the official history in this era of lies and manipulations??
it's plato's cave effect, the light is blinding i know, but we're in 2010 wtf, people minds should be more flexible!
and if you dig you find out easily you could fill in many hours of reports like these
there have always been exceptions...

Because there are no lies, people see what they want to see.
But give me clear evidence, a scientific study from a university/scientist and i will accept this possibility.
Until then it's just guessing...
You are acting like a creationist at the moment...
claiming it to be true, but lacking evidence
i don't understand, scientific study about the existence of those things, or what?
they don't make studies to prove impossibilities, if you do believe you can triple a skull's volume. there is no precedent for that, do you want a study about the lack of precedent?

here's some scientific study i made:
to elongate a skull 3 times would take years. years when a child should live with a skull progressively being 1.5x bigger, 2x bigger, 2.5x bigger and so forth, all that on a normal skeleton in plain development and with a normal brain bouncing in like a squash ball in the play room. how do you think a child would live long enough to get to the point where his skull grows 3 times the normal? and all that in times survival by itself was a hard game to play. is this creationist logic?

i think closer to creationists methods are the ways you deflect the questions you are asked by asking questions you know the answer for already

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:00 pm
by fretn
alien pimp wrote:
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:procedures similar to these are/were used by tribes in many continents as far as i know, but apparently is impossible to TRIPLE the volume of the skull due to lack of bone mass, as donas makes a very believable point in the video

really, it's a loooong list of discoveries there i've been asking of ways to fit them in the official history... even if this was a doubtful issue [and it isn't], the conclusion is still obvious, why is it so hard for some to accept it? why is it so important for people to believe in the official history in this era of lies and manipulations??
it's plato's cave effect, the light is blinding i know, but we're in 2010 wtf, people minds should be more flexible!
and if you dig you find out easily you could fill in many hours of reports like these
there have always been exceptions...

Because there are no lies, people see what they want to see.
But give me clear evidence, a scientific study from a university/scientist and i will accept this possibility.
Until then it's just guessing...
You are acting like a creationist at the moment...
claiming it to be true, but lacking evidence
i don't understand, scientific study about the existence of those things, or what?
they don't make studies to prove impossibilities, if you do believe you can triple a skull's volume. there is no precedent for that, do you want a study about the lack of precedent?

here's some scientific study i made:
to elongate a skull 3 times would take years. years when a child should live with a skull progressively being 1.5x bigger, 2x bigger, 2.5x bigger and so forth, all that on a normal skeleton in plain development and with a normal brain bouncing in like a squash ball in the play room. how do you think a child would live long enough to get to the point where his skull grows 3 times the normal? and all that in times survival by itself was a hard game to play. is this creationist logic?
Tell me why this hasn't reached the surface yet? Tell me why not even one major scientific report has been written on these things?
and don't come with the media controls everything bullshit at me...
give me a rational answer.

Apparently for some reason, nobody has had the idea except for this rather unknow austrian "professor" who apparently is being laughed at by most of the mainstream archeologists. To me he is a wackjob.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:05 pm
by hackman
pimp i'm unblocking you for talking some serious sense, glad you found the video informative!

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:06 pm
by hackman
fretn wrote:Tell me why this hasn't reached the surface yet? Tell me why not even one major scientific report has been written on these things?
already answered that one for you

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:09 pm
by fretn
To be honest, the thing that makes me doubt the most is his lack of sources, I am a historian, and no major work has ever been written without the use of sources and i value these sources, they are the things that give value to your research.
This guy doesn't give names (or seldomly) about institutions, researchers and universities. He only gives names for some illustrious "researcher", or some small shitty museum in the middle of nowhere.
For god sakes they could have even constructed those skulls just to lure people.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:12 pm
by fretn
That's the thing, you all think that some select group of people control your lives... that is just plain bullshit.

Some of you guys remind me of this type of person:
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Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:15 pm
by hackman
what exactly are you requiring sources for? all the best evidence he shows you! there's a lot more in the video than just skulls :roll:

why does he need to give names of researchers and institutions when all the work he's done is his own lol

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:15 pm
by hackman
fretn wrote:That's the thing, you all think that some select group of people control your lives... that is just plain bullshit.

Some of you guys remind me of this type of person:
Image

i think this thread has been a record, six pages before some tnuc brings in the tin foil hats

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:21 pm
by fretn
hackman wrote:what exactly are you requiring sources for? all the best evidence he shows you! there's a lot more in the video than just skulls :roll:

why does he need to give names of researchers and institutions when all the work he's done is his own lol
- We only get to see a slideshow of pictures and some comments by the man.
THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE GET!
how can you rely on this to be true...

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:22 pm
by fretn
Now i'm done with this....
gonna listen to some of your tunes hackman and sip some tea!
have a nice afternoon gentlemen ;)

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:25 pm
by drokkr
Interesting thread. I'm going to look into all this a bit more before I form a proper opinion.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:25 pm
by hackman
why don't you go and see one of his exhibitions then, surely if he was saying this stuff on the net and his exhibitions weren't matching there would be a lot of stuff saying so on the web from angry people like you?

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:29 pm
by fretn
hackman wrote:why don't you go and see one of his exhibitions then, surely if he was saying this stuff on the net and his exhibitions weren't matching there would be a lot of stuff saying so on the web from angry people like you?
If there ever is one in my vicinity i'd really like to go.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:33 pm
by alien pimp
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:procedures similar to these are/were used by tribes in many continents as far as i know, but apparently is impossible to TRIPLE the volume of the skull due to lack of bone mass, as donas makes a very believable point in the video

really, it's a loooong list of discoveries there i've been asking of ways to fit them in the official history... even if this was a doubtful issue [and it isn't], the conclusion is still obvious, why is it so hard for some to accept it? why is it so important for people to believe in the official history in this era of lies and manipulations??
it's plato's cave effect, the light is blinding i know, but we're in 2010 wtf, people minds should be more flexible!
and if you dig you find out easily you could fill in many hours of reports like these
there have always been exceptions...

Because there are no lies, people see what they want to see.
But give me clear evidence, a scientific study from a university/scientist and i will accept this possibility.
Until then it's just guessing...
You are acting like a creationist at the moment...
claiming it to be true, but lacking evidence
i don't understand, scientific study about the existence of those things, or what?
they don't make studies to prove impossibilities, if you do believe you can triple a skull's volume. there is no precedent for that, do you want a study about the lack of precedent?

here's some scientific study i made:
to elongate a skull 3 times would take years. years when a child should live with a skull progressively being 1.5x bigger, 2x bigger, 2.5x bigger and so forth, all that on a normal skeleton in plain development and with a normal brain bouncing in like a squash ball in the play room. how do you think a child would live long enough to get to the point where his skull grows 3 times the normal? and all that in times survival by itself was a hard game to play. is this creationist logic?
Tell me why this hasn't reached the surface yet? Tell me why not even one major scientific report has been written on these things?
and don't come with the media controls everything bullshit at me...
give me a rational answer.

Apparently for some reason, nobody has had the idea except for this rather unknow austrian "professor" who apparently is being laughed at by most of the mainstream archeologists. To me he is a wackjob.
this stuff and more like it reached the surface long time ago, it's just not voiced enough, like everything that's not in the official standards
if you think information control in this world is irrational bullshit, i can't help you, because i think your are irrational and you will to find out things is fake. as also proved by the fact that you avoid the questions and the points i made for you.
here's one more question for the historian in you: what are the sources for the sources? isn't everything coming for a source zero? what if the discoveries that fit in the official story are helped to get exposure and those who proved everyone wrong are marginalised, like everything in this world?
you're just exorcising epileptic kids man

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:37 pm
by alien pimp
history was written by the winners and the biggest propaganda machines

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:40 pm
by fretn
alien pimp wrote:
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
fretn wrote:
alien pimp wrote:procedures similar to these are/were used by tribes in many continents as far as i know, but apparently is impossible to TRIPLE the volume of the skull due to lack of bone mass, as donas makes a very believable point in the video

really, it's a loooong list of discoveries there i've been asking of ways to fit them in the official history... even if this was a doubtful issue [and it isn't], the conclusion is still obvious, why is it so hard for some to accept it? why is it so important for people to believe in the official history in this era of lies and manipulations??
it's plato's cave effect, the light is blinding i know, but we're in 2010 wtf, people minds should be more flexible!
and if you dig you find out easily you could fill in many hours of reports like these
there have always been exceptions...

Because there are no lies, people see what they want to see.
But give me clear evidence, a scientific study from a university/scientist and i will accept this possibility.
Until then it's just guessing...
You are acting like a creationist at the moment...
claiming it to be true, but lacking evidence
i don't understand, scientific study about the existence of those things, or what?
they don't make studies to prove impossibilities, if you do believe you can triple a skull's volume. there is no precedent for that, do you want a study about the lack of precedent?

here's some scientific study i made:
to elongate a skull 3 times would take years. years when a child should live with a skull progressively being 1.5x bigger, 2x bigger, 2.5x bigger and so forth, all that on a normal skeleton in plain development and with a normal brain bouncing in like a squash ball in the play room. how do you think a child would live long enough to get to the point where his skull grows 3 times the normal? and all that in times survival by itself was a hard game to play. is this creationist logic?
Tell me why this hasn't reached the surface yet? Tell me why not even one major scientific report has been written on these things?
and don't come with the media controls everything bullshit at me...
give me a rational answer.

Apparently for some reason, nobody has had the idea except for this rather unknow austrian "professor" who apparently is being laughed at by most of the mainstream archeologists. To me he is a wackjob.
this stuff and more like it reached the surface long time ago, it's just not voiced enough, like everything that's not in the official standards
if you think information control in this world is irrational bullshit, i can't help you, because i think your are irrational and you will to find out things is fake. as also proved by the fact that you avoid questions and the points i made.
here's one more question for the historian in you: what are the sources for the sources? isn't everything coming for a source zero? what if the discoveries that fit in the official story are helped to get exposure and those who proved everyone wrong are marginalised, like everything in this world?
you're just exorcising epileptic kids man
What are my sources?
Libraries, offcial studies, lectures by professionals, seminars. Not a photo podcast of 1 hour.

I'm not irrational, if i would be irrational i wouldn't even have watched the video probably...
I'm just providing some anwers and questions to the points you guys make.
I'm quite confident these cases Klaus Dona mentions are perfectionally rationally explainable, if we can't do it know, we will find out sometime in the (near) future.
Untill then, I just follow mainstream science.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:41 pm
by fretn
alien pimp wrote:history was written by the winners and the biggest propaganda machines
we're not talking about history here, we are talking about sources and archeology.

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:42 pm
by hackman
klaus aint professional cos he aint made bare money like

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:45 pm
by alien pimp
fretn wrote:That's the thing, you all think that some select group of people control your lives... that is just plain bullshit.

Some of you guys remind me of this type of person:
Image
yeah, like most of the intelligent people i've met, as opposed to people who avoid to ask themselves any questions that might disturb the beliefs seeded in them by the propaganda machine of the state and every time they are made to face proves and questions they come out with overused jokes and chicken out, because they can't handle the truth
i wear my tinfoil hat with pride, it helped me countless times to predict forthcoming events, while your kind is always amazed with the new developments and thinks the earth is flat because most people think so

Re: Some amazing archaeology

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:48 pm
by fretn
alien pimp wrote:
fretn wrote:That's the thing, you all think that some select group of people control your lives... that is just plain bullshit.

Some of you guys remind me of this type of person:
Image
yeah, like most of the intelligent people i've met, as opposed to people who avoid to ask themselves any questions that might disturb the beliefs seeded in them by the propaganda machine of the state and every time they are made to face proves and questions they come out with overused jokes and chicken out, because they can't handle the truth
i wear my tinfoil hat with pride, it helped me countless times to predict forthcoming events, while your kind is always amazed with the new developments and thinks the earth is flat because most people think so
What events?
What has the country of belgium to do with skulls in south america :lol:?