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fractal wrote:

jamesgarfield wrote:drugs are bad joe

fractal wrote:

joeki wrote: Only breakcore can save us mate

fractal wrote:

jamesgarfield wrote:drugs are bad joe

hope he's aight, good fella really (i think)

mashmash wrote:dubstep doesn't need to be saved, it's doing just fine. there's loads of producers doing things and experimenting with new sounds in dubstep and pushing things forward that aren't tearout brostep. i don't see how grime could change much, since dubstep has become such a broad term,some producers who are labeled as dubstep actually sound fairly similar to old grime anyway

fractal wrote:

so can we skip that bit please and get back to the main issue?

wow, u just blew that out of proportion,,, i thought things were pretty civilized imho

you posted this thread on dubstepforum and you didn't expect there to be a debate on the subject of brostep itself? error in judgment i'd say

joe muggs wrote:It's been obvious a while that Grime & Dubstep were blurring boundaries more than they have for years... obviously it's happened for ages, the best DJs always played grime instrumentals, and there's been tunes like 'Intensive Snare' to show how close the sounds really are... but this year it's nuts, the number of killer tunes with really aggressive dubstep backing and proper grime MCing on top is growing, and of course more and more grime producers are putting out instrumental 12s and albums which fit into dubstep DJ sets - it really came clear to me how much this is a real thing when I compiled the Ministry 'Dubstep And Beyond' comp... and the thing is, it's proving that aggro dubstep, as I've said for time, isn't just "heavy metal" or "white boy student music" but is still in touch with its London/pirate roots. It's a new injection of energy, and it keeps dubstep's "mongrel music" nature strong....

Or am I wide of the mark here?

joe muggs wrote:so can we skip that bit please and get back to the main issue?

addicted wrote:

kultron wrote:I am a huge fan of Grime... and I would say that it's not very intelligent music. That doesn't mean it sucks. I like crunk, which is as stupid as it gets but doesn't mean it sucks.

tell what makes dubstep more intelligent than grime, seriously

they went wild for every one of these tunes. even the trim tune which i assumed they would not like. DVA's tune got the biggest response of the night even though it was billed as electro /dnb night.

so yeah there is some evidence that grime can be just as hype or more hype than tearout dubstep.... and I was convinced starkey's creature would get the biggest response..

pkay wrote:

pompende wrote:
oh you're right... no one in dnb knew about dubstep until like 2007 and then it all happened at once.

Where exactly did I say or imply that?

I was deeply involved in drum and bass in 2005 but started becoming interested in dubstep around that time. At that time it's not like all of dnb was on board for dubstep. The majority of the conversations I had with my dnb brethren were about how dubstep was going to die, was just a fad, etc etc. You can't deny that there wasnt a massive migration in 2007. Very steep decline in drum and bass at that time, very large interest in dubstep from people in the dnb scene.

Tho any excuse to use a bar graph is a good excuse

kultron wrote: This doesn't make it stupid, it's just less appealing to logic than dubstep is... know what i'm talkin bout?

kultron wrote:I would say your biggest mistake would be the Zomby tunes and then the Kode9 ones. They're great songs but they lack the energy of all the rest of your choices. Zomby is always difficult unfortunately for people who are unfamiliar with him. Creature has a bit too much 'violence' going on to be acceptable to those who haven't heard stuff like that before.

joe muggs wrote:

fractal wrote:errorerrorerrordelson ote compute brostep bvrostep must talk brostep quank qprrrrp digstep burpmstep quankquankrrrrrp

I probably shouldn't go on forums late at night. We can talk about grime later.