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ThinKing wrote:

rachel wrote: time was when abt 5 ppl went to fwd and the dj could push boundaries all over - no dancefloor to pls, no fri night to keep going etc etc. new producers, of which there are many, may well show up to fwd and just hear the partaaay sets - their productions will be influenced by what they hear as dubstep now - lfo, wobble, drop and so on.

the tendency of fwd to book only a small number of rotating djs - no slt, no S&D, no-one not 'established' - seems to be reinforcing a certain version of dubstep. not to hate - fwd is successful and this is a good thing - but i'd like to see more adventure, in terms of both bookings from ammo and the headline sets from djs who play them. thoughts?

interesting. I speak as someone who hasn't been to FWD in about 2-3 years (apart from The End party last summer). I ONLY went when it was a monthly Thursday ting, and the entire scene was chattin in the bar while 20 peeps were on the dancefloor. This new weekly Friday ramout ting is totally alien to me.

With regards to the bookings made by FWD - at the end of the day I feel it's up to a promoter who gets booked, and even if you're the flagship nite for a burgeoning scene you should feel no pressure to book anyone ither than the acts you like/feel. SLT used to be residents don't forget, and I know S&D have played at least once. Also, Appleblim, Headhunter, Caspa, Distinx, Pinch, have all repped recently if you want new names.

There was a massive thread on the old dubplate.net forum years back about how 'breaky' wasn't repped at FWD, peeps demanding to know when Vex'd or Hot Flush would get their debut set. Peeps were gettin proper wound up about it, but like I say, it's not FWD's responsibility to book DJs that other people think they should. IMO.

J_J wrote:^grow up.
i dont know why u post here at all.
should i explain my life to you,nah dont think so.

Shonky wrote:Fuck me, two intelligent posts. I didn't think this was allowed in this thread

rachel wrote:

ThinKing wrote:

rachel wrote: time was when abt 5 ppl went to fwd and the dj could push boundaries all over - no dancefloor to pls, no fri night to keep going etc etc. new producers, of which there are many, may well show up to fwd and just hear the partaaay sets - their productions will be influenced by what they hear as dubstep now - lfo, wobble, drop and so on.

the tendency of fwd to book only a small number of rotating djs - no slt, no S&D, no-one not 'established' - seems to be reinforcing a certain version of dubstep. not to hate - fwd is successful and this is a good thing - but i'd like to see more adventure, in terms of both bookings from ammo and the headline sets from djs who play them. thoughts?

interesting. I speak as someone who hasn't been to FWD in about 2-3 years (apart from The End party last summer). I ONLY went when it was a monthly Thursday ting, and the entire scene was chattin in the bar while 20 peeps were on the dancefloor. This new weekly Friday ramout ting is totally alien to me.

With regards to the bookings made by FWD - at the end of the day I feel it's up to a promoter who gets booked, and even if you're the flagship nite for a burgeoning scene you should feel no pressure to book anyone ither than the acts you like/feel. SLT used to be residents don't forget, and I know S&D have played at least once. Also, Appleblim, Headhunter, Caspa, Distinx, Pinch, have all repped recently if you want new names.

There was a massive thread on the old dubplate.net forum years back about how 'breaky' wasn't repped at FWD, peeps demanding to know when Vex'd or Hot Flush would get their debut set. Peeps were gettin proper wound up about it, but like I say, it's not FWD's responsibility to book DJs that other people think they should. IMO.

yeah, i agree, my point wasn't that fwd>> shld book anyone they don't feel to. they have a business to run and accounts to fix up etc etc, so it's all good. or yup they might just not be feeling anyone other than those they book. it was more abt the general effect of the fwd>> 'rota', as it were, on the way that dubstep (not totally but in places) has stagnated a bit in terms of style.

true bristol have been repping more lately, tho this has taken a while, and whilst slt were residents and S&D have played down there, this was a while back. also geeneus' sets of late have really been abt dubstep by numbers rather than the more varied stuff he used to go on with. I'm not really sure what my point is, actually - prob just that I used to enjoy the unexpectedness/challenging bits of fwd, and now i don't really get that other than when kode9 or poss pinch play.

rachel wrote:also geeneus' sets of late have really been abt dubstep by numbers rather than the more varied stuff he used to go on with. I'm not really sure what my point is, actually - prob just that I used to enjoy the unexpectedness/challenging bits of fwd, and now i don't really get that other than when kode9 or poss pinch play.

dubstep in 2004 was so orig in its sound and ideas.

J_J wrote:

rachel wrote:

ThinKing wrote:

rachel wrote: time was when abt 5 ppl went to fwd and the dj could push boundaries all over - no dancefloor to pls, no fri night to keep going etc etc. new producers, of which there are many, may well show up to fwd and just hear the partaaay sets - their productions will be influenced by what they hear as dubstep now - lfo, wobble, drop and so on.

the tendency of fwd to book only a small number of rotating djs - no slt, no S&D, no-one not 'established' - seems to be reinforcing a certain version of dubstep. not to hate - fwd is successful and this is a good thing - but i'd like to see more adventure, in terms of both bookings from ammo and the headline sets from djs who play them. thoughts?

interesting. I speak as someone who hasn't been to FWD in about 2-3 years (apart from The End party last summer). I ONLY went when it was a monthly Thursday ting, and the entire scene was chattin in the bar while 20 peeps were on the dancefloor. This new weekly Friday ramout ting is totally alien to me.

With regards to the bookings made by FWD - at the end of the day I feel it's up to a promoter who gets booked, and even if you're the flagship nite for a burgeoning scene you should feel no pressure to book anyone ither than the acts you like/feel. SLT used to be residents don't forget, and I know S&D have played at least once. Also, Appleblim, Headhunter, Caspa, Distinx, Pinch, have all repped recently if you want new names.

There was a massive thread on the old dubplate.net forum years back about how 'breaky' wasn't repped at FWD, peeps demanding to know when Vex'd or Hot Flush would get their debut set. Peeps were gettin proper wound up about it, but like I say, it's not FWD's responsibility to book DJs that other people think they should. IMO.

yeah, i agree, my point wasn't that fwd>> shld book anyone they don't feel to. they have a business to run and accounts to fix up etc etc, so it's all good. or yup they might just not be feeling anyone other than those they book. it was more abt the general effect of the fwd>> 'rota', as it were, on the way that dubstep (not totally but in places) has stagnated a bit in terms of style.

true bristol have been repping more lately, tho this has taken a while, and whilst slt were residents and S&D have played down there, this was a while back. also geeneus' sets of late have really been abt dubstep by numbers rather than the more varied stuff he used to go on with. I'm not really sure what my point is, actually - prob just that I used to enjoy the unexpectedness/challenging bits of fwd, and now i don't really get that other than when kode9 or poss pinch play.

yes!! kode 9 and others used to play a huge mix of grime to dubstep and back again and it was interesting as hell,now the 'drop' formula has kinda took over again and certain points of the scene that were interesting have now become generic as fuck and seem to support anyone in that mould.
dubstep in 2004 was so orig in its sound and ideas and now were really lookign at it going jazzy or 'intelligent'.or lads just bite whats existin and think thats dubstep.which is more prevalent now.

Batfink wrote:

Shonky wrote:Fuck me, two intelligent posts. I didn't think this was allowed in this thread

hang on, what about my posts?

tronman wrote:

rachel wrote:also geeneus' sets of late have really been abt dubstep by numbers rather than the more varied stuff he used to go on with. I'm not really sure what my point is, actually - prob just that I used to enjoy the unexpectedness/challenging bits of fwd, and now i don't really get that other than when kode9 or poss pinch play.

bang on

i cant believe geeneus (the guy who pioneered the grime intrumental in his PAYG days, along with slimzee) plays so much skream/coki when those beats are clearly being repped by at least 5 other DJs. also since FWD moved to EVERY friday i've been goin alot less. i still enjoy it down there because i know so many people who reach, but long live Corsica and the other 'anti-fwd' (i hope u get me) nights popping up...

J_J wrote: why post in this thread.? try bait me ? can u fuck with me then??
yeah i sold a lot.
i send the clips so you can check my tunes i got a few hundred shame u got some and waste em for ppl who appreciate the sound.

pete bubonic wrote:

J_J wrote:

rachel wrote:

ThinKing wrote:

rachel wrote: time was when abt 5 ppl went to fwd and the dj could push boundaries all over - no dancefloor to pls, no fri night to keep going etc etc. new producers, of which there are many, may well show up to fwd and just hear the partaaay sets - their productions will be influenced by what they hear as dubstep now - lfo, wobble, drop and so on.

the tendency of fwd to book only a small number of rotating djs - no slt, no S&D, no-one not 'established' - seems to be reinforcing a certain version of dubstep. not to hate - fwd is successful and this is a good thing - but i'd like to see more adventure, in terms of both bookings from ammo and the headline sets from djs who play them. thoughts?

interesting. I speak as someone who hasn't been to FWD in about 2-3 years (apart from The End party last summer). I ONLY went when it was a monthly Thursday ting, and the entire scene was chattin in the bar while 20 peeps were on the dancefloor. This new weekly Friday ramout ting is totally alien to me.

With regards to the bookings made by FWD - at the end of the day I feel it's up to a promoter who gets booked, and even if you're the flagship nite for a burgeoning scene you should feel no pressure to book anyone ither than the acts you like/feel. SLT used to be residents don't forget, and I know S&D have played at least once. Also, Appleblim, Headhunter, Caspa, Distinx, Pinch, have all repped recently if you want new names.

There was a massive thread on the old dubplate.net forum years back about how 'breaky' wasn't repped at FWD, peeps demanding to know when Vex'd or Hot Flush would get their debut set. Peeps were gettin proper wound up about it, but like I say, it's not FWD's responsibility to book DJs that other people think they should. IMO.

yeah, i agree, my point wasn't that fwd>> shld book anyone they don't feel to. they have a business to run and accounts to fix up etc etc, so it's all good. or yup they might just not be feeling anyone other than those they book. it was more abt the general effect of the fwd>> 'rota', as it were, on the way that dubstep (not totally but in places) has stagnated a bit in terms of style.

true bristol have been repping more lately, tho this has taken a while, and whilst slt were residents and S&D have played down there, this was a while back. also geeneus' sets of late have really been abt dubstep by numbers rather than the more varied stuff he used to go on with. I'm not really sure what my point is, actually - prob just that I used to enjoy the unexpectedness/challenging bits of fwd, and now i don't really get that other than when kode9 or poss pinch play.

yes!! kode 9 and others used to play a huge mix of grime to dubstep and back again and it was interesting as hell,now the 'drop' formula has kinda took over again and certain points of the scene that were interesting have now become generic as fuck and seem to support anyone in that mould.
dubstep in 2004 was so orig in its sound and ideas and now were really lookign at it going jazzy or 'intelligent'.or lads just bite whats existin and think thats dubstep.which is more prevalent now.

Perhaps focussing on solely what the fwd>> camp are doing isn't the right thing then. There are plety of new and established producers who taking the sound and moving forward. Pinch, TRG, Skream, Ramadanman, Benga and Mala. I don't go to FWD>> anymore because the weekly has taken away the excitement and allure of something special and a lot of the sets are dancefloor rinseouts back to back. but there are sooo many night sprouting up that are really doing things.