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tbh i think the average juke producer uses quantizing quite a bit... altho i hear some shifted hits from time to time... dont worry

i remember i used to spend evenings just playing dilla type patterns on my mpc 3000 to get used to it... metronome + pads = hours of fun/frustration

if uve seen people like flylo ull understand that one can get good at hittin the pads!

one thing i used to do was trying to hook up my drums at slower speeds... then accelerate them... kinda gives u more ''brain and arm movement resolution'' if thats even a concept hahhahha

yeah man the metronome. it's always distracting me but on the other hand without it i go out of time too.
also i cant help but feel like i bite ramadanman when using 808 sounds

LOL

he had his very own way of flipping it if u ask me.. quite distant from the rest of the footwork-influenced stuff i hear

808s are older then that tho ( i kno u know that )

i kinda feel like im biting addison groove from time to time.. but not that much...

lemmme digress on the subject of influence :

when u listen to more contemporary music in that genre... ( im sure u and others on this thread have already done that ) it kinda feels like its all quite samey, thats why i love rmdnmn work...

the contemporary stuff gets me motivated cause i feel all the enthousiasm there is around such rythms (the planet mu compilation is a good start imo... )

hwv.. i guess its fairly more pedagogical to listen to a lot of the classic stuff.. thats what ive been doing lately and its been a great deal of inspiration..

my main sources of inspiration. sadly i have no idea where to buy tracks like these, the ones on planet µ havent fascinated me as much so far.

could you reccomend some of the classic stuff you spoke of?

cajmere - percolator is the starting point, thats no secret. DJ Deeon and DJ Slugo are precursors to juke. Musical history is vital in understanding a genre, but i personally prefer all the footwerk stuff because of how fucking weird it can be. The fact that the genre has evolved, essentially isolated, to this point is fascinating stuff.

UK gave the world jungle/dnb but juke/footwork is the american take on 150-160

howse wrote:cajmere - percolator is the starting point, thats no secret. DJ Deeon and DJ Slugo are precursors to juke. Musical history is vital in understanding a genre, but i personally prefer all the footwerk stuff because of how fucking weird it can be. The fact that the genre has evolved, essentially isolated, to this point is fascinating stuff.

UK gave the world jungle/dnb but juke/footwork is the american take on 150-160

lol this dance just looks like they are crip walking fast...

i hear what u say ... tho, cripwalkin is not a dance

NAAAH juking doesn't look like crip walking. But my god... crip walking used to be SOOOOO big where I live...


...but I guess that's the nature of LA

EDIT: I really see the jazz influences a lot more. Those cats dancing to bebop were fuckin on to something

honey-d wrote:NAAAH juking doesn't look like crip walking. But my god... crip walking used to be SOOOOO big where I live...


...but I guess that's the nature of LA

EDIT: I really see the jazz influences a lot more. Those cats dancing to bebop were fuckin on to something

lol i would assume the crip walk was big in LA and yes bepop homies were DEFINITLY on to something

Man, I really wanna learn how to footwork. Insane moves. No idea what the fucks'going on, though.

TheBassTest wrote:lol this dance just looks like they are crip walking fast...

Classic tune, btw. One of Daz's best beats. o.o

collective wrote:

that was awesome
thanks for sharing

any label worth mentioning besides P.mu. thats putting out that stuff atm???

!?!?!

how do you keep it interesting is what i want to know- i can make about 1 and a half minutes and then the vocal sample makes me want to kill myself

case in point

Soundcloud

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hutyluty wrote:how do you keep it interesting is what i want to know- i can make about 1 and a half minutes and then the vocal sample makes me want to kill myself

Most/Many real Juke tracks are only about 2:20 seconds long at most.

Generally, most/many Juke djs from the midwest are only playing songs for only about a minute at most. It's about quick mixing, not long blends, or big change ups. If you didn't hear Rashad's set on Rinse, def go download it.

That must take some serious djing skills!

Good to know thanks, its just on dj nates albums often the tunes went to 3 minutes- or is that the equivalent of learning about dubstep through mt eden?

hutyluty wrote:That must take some serious djing skills!

Good to know thanks, its just on dj nates albums often the tunes went to 3 minutes- or is that the equivalent of learning about dubstep through mt eden?

It basically is. People don't consider Nate real Juke.

Check out Earl, Rashad, Spinn, Manny, etc, definitely showcases the rhythm, length, arrangements of tracks.

As for DJ skills, not really - b/c you aren't really blending, and all the tracks are the same tempo, you cue up quick and drop it in the mix.
Even though it's "ghetto tech", check that DJ Godfather video someone just posted, good example of how people dj this kind of stuff.

will do, cheers- maybe learn some more history before i try making shit again

See the 2 masters do a 30 minute mix