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Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:15 am
by Bloodstream
here one set from the states we`ve recorded :4:


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Join UK musician/producer James Blake as he performs live with a band during this intimate KEXP concert of his post-dubstep soul music recorded at Seattle’s The Triple Door. The set features songs from the self-titled LP and a new track called “Enough Thunder.”

☆ ☆ ☆ T R A C K L I S T I N G ☆ ☆ ☆
Enough Thunder
I Never Learnt To Share
Limit To Your Love
Lindisfarne
The Wilhelm Scream
Unluck

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:33 am
by Soiree
ONE BLOOD! THANK U BLOODSTREAM!
IM BECOMING MORE ENGROSSED WITH JAMES BLAKE, this couldn't have dropped at a better time!

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:48 pm
by pandabear
Nevalo wrote:
Soiree wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
Soiree wrote:ITS SAD, :| BUT I KNOW WAY TOO MANY WOMEN WHO CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH BROSTEP.
I PLAYED THEM 'WUT' THEY SAID IT WAS TOO MELLOW :?
i hear ya

seems that its now fasionable to be a female into brostep

althought, it seems to be all the girls that go to town and spend half the night in the bathroom doing lines off the toilet seats
YES! THE FEMALE BROSTEP DJs DON'T HELP NETHER! :(
:lol:

we dont get em here, thank god
San Diego is infested with them. If it's not college girls grinding and jumping on each other, it's hipsters doing the 50s/60s dance moves and kicking their feet up to your head. I'm sure some started dancing a lot slower and better now. How hard is it to do copy a dance move? Still no rhythms though. :?

The only female DJ I know in SD - Ubiquitous - plays dark tunes, thank god! I'm sure she's not selling out or she would have done that a long time ago. She's in your face about the whole woi shit too. Big up, Lisa!!! <3 :w:

As far as JB's statement is concerned, I think it's a bit late, but the sentiment is there. The state of dubstep in the US (for the most part) is fucking sad. LA, NY, and SF do have their nights monthly (if you're lucky), but in smaller cities like mine, brostep gets played here all day, everyday. 'It's all about the epic bro anthem drop and if it's not, then the plug gets pulled'. That's an actual quote from one of the woi DJs here. I'm not partaking and supporting that shit. For the record, I can dance to JB's music. I would rather dance to this music than any of the shit currently getting played here.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:57 pm
by ariosa
atleast13 wrote: San Diego is infested with them. If it's not college girls grinding and jumping on each other, it's hipsters doing the 50s/60s dance moves and kicking their feet up to your head. I'm sure some started dancing a lot slower and better now. How hard is it to do copy a dance move? Still no rhythms though. :?

The only female DJ I know in SD - Ubiquitous - plays dark tunes, thank god! I'm sure she's not selling out or she would have done that a long time ago. She's in your face about the whole woi shit too. Big up, Lisa!!! <3 :w:

As far as JB's statement is concerned, I think it's a bit late, but the sentiment is there. The state of dubstep in the US (for the most part) is fucking sad. LA, NY, and SF do have their nights monthly (if you're lucky), but in smaller cities like mine, brostep gets played here all day, everyday. 'It's all about the epic bro anthem drop and if it's not, then the plug gets pulled'. That's an actual quote from one of the woi DJs here. I'm not partaking and supporting that shit. For the record, I can dance to JB's music. I would rather dance to this music than any of the shit currently getting played here.
Same dude, i live in cincinnati, the only other dubstep dj I know around here that doesn't play brostep 100% of the time is kaiten, big ups!

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:55 pm
by Soiree
California has a wide range of options for the dubstep inclined, but yea, where there are BROS there is BROSTEP. Where there are hippies, there is GROOVY DELICATENESS. :L:

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:04 pm
by muntz
This thread is making me feel better and better about the current status of our scene in Atlanta. We have the bro nights but at least we also have deep nights 2 times a month usually with 1 big name.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:09 pm
by Skullbussa
Look, Brostep is utter toss...I think we (mostly) can agree on that. Right?

But I do want to take James Blake to task. That album he released was just simply dreadful. He needs a serious dose of energy and danger injected into his music. Incessant melodramatic warblings of a wanna-be crooner is not progressive nor is it danceable.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:36 pm
by garethom
Skullbussa wrote:Look, Brostep is utter toss...I think we (mostly) can agree on that. Right?

But I do want to take James Blake to task. That album he released was just simply dreadful. He needs a serious dose of energy and danger injected into his music. Incessant melodramatic warblings of a wanna-be crooner is not progressive nor is it danceable.
Is there set rules he has to follow then? If you want his music to sound like that of somebody else, just listen to that person's music. :u:

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:42 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
i'd argue that it is progressive.... someone was gonna do post-dubstep ballad crooner music.. prob not meant to be danceable..
But anyways point being, the creation of this music was inevitable. just like the USA rap-dubstep bandwagoning from the hip hop game.. it just doesn't suck as much
when the genre blows up it has to move out into other directions

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:48 pm
by joeki
What frustrates and astounds me more than what James Blake (rightly) has to say about dubstep, is that he's decided to work together with Bon Iver.

let me just take the time to get this all into year "indy" heads : BON IVER IS WORTHLESS OVERRATED PITCHFORK SPONSORED CRAP. Honestly, if Burial was supposed to be a marketing scam, then what is bon iver? So pretentious man...and I couldn't give a fuck about the whole story behind it, fact of the matter is it's produced in a shitty way. I mean, black metal recorded in some norwegian wood (like burzum), you know I get the charm (and the funny side) of that. But this just sound bad. And he can not for the life of me sing a single note correctly, but that's what is so hip in the indy/americana scene these days.

Bon Iver sucks ass....sorry people: haters gonna hate.

I'll stick to his new EP and skip on this worthless collab.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:46 pm
by Skullbussa
garethom wrote:
Skullbussa wrote:Look, Brostep is utter toss...I think we (mostly) can agree on that. Right?

But I do want to take James Blake to task. That album he released was just simply dreadful. He needs a serious dose of energy and danger injected into his music. Incessant melodramatic warblings of a wanna-be crooner is not progressive nor is it danceable.
Is there set rules he has to follow then? If you want his music to sound like that of somebody else, just listen to that person's music. :u:
My point, that I apparently failed to get across, was that Blake's music is on the completely opposite end of the spectrum from brostep yet I find it equally irritating. In fact, if you took some of the cheese and attack of brostep and mixed it with the restraint and soul of Blake's music, you'd probably be in the right place. It's just that there was very little in his album that made me think "This guy is really crossing into new territory".

I guess I'm just tired of Blake's inability to edit himself. He's still young, so I can chalk that up to precociousness, but it would be nice to see him develop past this phase. Tunes like "I Mind" are suggestive of what he is capable of and it would be great to see him push towards that.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:55 pm
by skitz_0
ariosa wrote: Same dude, i live in cincinnati, the only other dubstep dj I know around here that doesn't play brostep 100% of the time is kaiten, big ups!
:t:

used to live right outside cincinnati. i've been seeing more and more people that still around there jump on the skrillex, datsik, etc. wagon.
big up, kaitin and the rest of the heavy pressure gang. i was looking forward to doing a small set with them over the summer but things didn't pan out; luckily, i'll be back in town in november to catch joe nice :h:

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:12 pm
by ThomasEll
joeki wrote:What frustrates and astounds me more than what James Blake (rightly) has to say about dubstep, is that he's decided to work together with Bon Iver.

let me just take the time to get this all into year "indy" heads : BON IVER IS WORTHLESS OVERRATED PITCHFORK SPONSORED CRAP. Honestly, if Burial was supposed to be a marketing scam, then what is bon iver? So pretentious man...and I couldn't give a fuck about the whole story behind it, fact of the matter is it's produced in a shitty way. I mean, black metal recorded in some norwegian wood (like burzum), you know I get the charm (and the funny side) of that. But this just sound bad. And he can not for the life of me sing a single note correctly, but that's what is so hip in the indy/americana scene these days.

Bon Iver sucks ass....sorry people: haters gonna hate.

I'll stick to his new EP and skip on this worthless collab.
I actually quite liked the collab track that I heard

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:48 pm
by Alistairr
it was about time someone crossed over dubstep with pop, and thank god it was james blake who at least keeps his intregraty intact rather then katy b or whatever her name is who got nominated for the mercury award...jame sblake is a top draw artist he actually knows his shit, and should thus be respected purely on a musical level only. the baseline should never over-ride the harmony and melody of a song, and james made sure of that on the track everyone lieks, cant remeber its name but hey im tipsy lol...anyhow....

the future for substep, is uncertian im sure more bands will follow his suit, and try crossover tunes to match his, but he is the orignator and thus the kingpin of the lot, dubstep should embrace this and other genres if its to move forward, otherwise it will get left be hind,

laters

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:10 pm
by garethom
Can we accept that somebody that once made something that could be classed as dubstep might make something completely different for a few releases?

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:22 pm
by ketamine
garethom wrote:Can we accept that somebody that once made something that could be classed as dubstep might make something completely different for a few releases?
No :lol:

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:42 am
by exper
Just saw James tonight in Philly. Really weird audience. But his set was really really good. Loved the dubbed out version of some songs. One part almost sounded like Basic Channel to me. Encored with an amazing cover of Anti War Dub. whatever his style of music is, it's good.

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:19 pm
by zonetrooper5
Anyone got a download link for that james blake set that bloodstream uploaded to SC?

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:52 pm
by muntz
zonetrooper5 wrote:Anyone got a download link for that james blake set that bloodstream uploaded to SC?
http://soundscrape.net/

Re: James Blake on the state of dubstep

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:42 am
by sixamsedna
Brostep is the most idiotic thing to come out of the entire dubstep genre. OK, maybe I'm exaggerating..I've had my good run back in '09 with FabricLive 37, and I like SOME of the brostep tunes, but the majority of this 'Transformers sounding concoction' is just painful.