JBoy wrote:The thing is though, the grime scene comes across as inarticulate and violent and if you are white then why talk like youre from jamaica. Plus its a joke so theres no need to get your knickers in a twist over it, blud.
Most Grime has a London accent... a fair few London dialects have bits of patois mixed in, but that doesn't make it Jamaican...
I think you're exaggerating the truth a bit here. If that was the case why haven't the South Asian accents had just as much an influence?
i can think of one grime star who has oriental ethnicity..................................................................
Out to those that know.
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:16 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
herbalicious wrote:
.onelove. wrote:
magma wrote:
JBoy wrote:The thing is though, the grime scene comes across as inarticulate and violent and if you are white then why talk like youre from jamaica. Plus its a joke so theres no need to get your knickers in a twist over it, blud.
Most Grime has a London accent... a fair few London dialects have bits of patois mixed in, but that doesn't make it Jamaican...
I think you're exaggerating the truth a bit here. If that was the case why haven't the South Asian accents had just as much an influence?
i can think of one grime star who has oriental ethnicity..................................................................
Out to those that know.
im....not a hater
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:49 pm
by .onelove.
herbalicious wrote:
.onelove. wrote:
magma wrote:
JBoy wrote:The thing is though, the grime scene comes across as inarticulate and violent and if you are white then why talk like youre from jamaica. Plus its a joke so theres no need to get your knickers in a twist over it, blud.
Most Grime has a London accent... a fair few London dialects have bits of patois mixed in, but that doesn't make it Jamaican...
I think you're exaggerating the truth a bit here. If that was the case why haven't the South Asian accents had just as much an influence?
i can think of one grime star who has oriental ethnicity..................................................................
Out to those that know.
Mr Wong?
And I meant more Indian/Pakistani/Bengali, there are bigger communities from those regions then those of West Indian heritage.
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:56 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
badman is pakistani lol
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:04 am
by herbalicious
Lowkey?
edit: though i suppose more Hip Hop...and it seems he's of Iraqi descent anyway...
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:15 am
by .onelove.
Uh, there are a fair few South Asian Grime MCs, I'm talking more about the accent rather than the ethnicity.
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:23 am
by herbalicious
k. i wasn't really payin much attention tbh...just wanted to get mr wong mentioned.
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:26 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
wongage is a badman.... never on longage
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:25 am
by wolf89
Nevalo wrote:
herbalicious wrote:
.onelove. wrote:
magma wrote:
JBoy wrote:The thing is though, the grime scene comes across as inarticulate and violent and if you are white then why talk like youre from jamaica. Plus its a joke so theres no need to get your knickers in a twist over it, blud.
Most Grime has a London accent... a fair few London dialects have bits of patois mixed in, but that doesn't make it Jamaican...
I think you're exaggerating the truth a bit here. If that was the case why haven't the South Asian accents had just as much an influence?
i can think of one grime star who has oriental ethnicity..................................................................
Out to those that know.
im....not a hater
this is stuuuupid maaate
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:55 am
by capo ultra
I prefered this thread when it was about how sniffed up Logan was
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:16 am
by James Kofi
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:58 am
by magma
.onelove. wrote:
magma wrote:
JBoy wrote:The thing is though, the grime scene comes across as inarticulate and violent and if you are white then why talk like youre from jamaica. Plus its a joke so theres no need to get your knickers in a twist over it, blud.
Most Grime has a London accent... a fair few London dialects have bits of patois mixed in, but that doesn't make it Jamaican...
I think you're exaggerating the truth a bit here. If that was the case why haven't the South Asian accents had just as much an influence?
Well, it could be for a million reasons, but likely the same as why posh english accents like mine, European accents and Australian ones haven't been hugely represented... they're not massively common in the social groups/areas that the music was founded - London is quite neatly seperated into unofficial cultural ghettos - it's possible for a postcode to have a distinct accent and music scene... Grime largely came out of areas with big Jamaican and Cockney populations, so it reflected that. It then became mainstream enough for people to adopt the slang - just like we all did with a lot of New York and Cali slang when Hip Hop got mainstream in the 90s. Language spreads. Slang spreads. It's natural; it's not a problem.
Some accents also lend themselves to certain styles of music better... I can't imagine Boris Johnson making a particularly good MC, but the chippy staccato syllables of Skinnyman's cockney mixed with patois, the menacing dread of Spaceape or the authoritative New Yorker of Chuck D suit it perfectly.
South Asians, like most Londoners, have had a huge of effect on London culture and life - don't make the mistake of assuming that grime/rapping is the be-all-and-end-all of art!
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:02 am
by LA_Boxers
capo ultra wrote:I prefered this thread when it was about how sniffed up Logan was
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:02 pm
by dreamizm
LA_Boxers wrote:
capo ultra wrote:I prefered this thread when it was about Mr Wong
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:37 pm
by James Kofi
dreamizm wrote:
LA_Boxers wrote:
capo ultra wrote:I prefered this thread when it was about Mr Wong
lol
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:48 pm
by Local Authority
I don't see how talking in patois could be seen as pathetic?
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:13 pm
by JBoy
^No one said it was. Think people are getting confused over what patois is.
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:20 pm
by pikeymobile
James Kofi wrote:
kofi derailed and then saved the fred
seen lots of vids of him at outlook too with a 1000 yard stare going on
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:30 pm
by Today
fucking hell, i want some of whatever he's on
Re: Eskidance
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:38 pm
by James Kofi
pikeymobile wrote:
James Kofi wrote:
kofi derailed and then saved the fred
seen lots of vids of him at outlook too with a 1000 yard stare going on
im the only person in the thread who went to the night lol
