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Nero-style synth/bass

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:17 am
by RevIllusion
My first post! :D
Sorry I haven't helped anyone out on these forums so far, I'm very new to the producing world so there's little I can help with. Makes me feel like a d*** :(
Anyways, does anyone have any idea how to produce the bass drop featured at 1:08 in Nero's remix of Plan B's 'The Recluse,' and if possible, the variant of the higher-pitched at 1:13?
I think there's two different basses to make this sound but I am a n00b and as such have no idea how to make this sound.
Any help in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!


Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:49 am
by kikaruu
@RevIllusion: Welcome to DSF! So, that synth sounds like saws and movement. So take a couple saw waves an octave apart, and add a sine wave an octave below (for depth and distortion muddling; lower notes eat a lot of headroom and generate nice harmonics and affect the way distortion interacts with the waves and whatnot). Another sine a fifth above whatever your root will be is fine, too. Then distort, and add slight chorus on top. See the terrible example below.

@Canonmusic: High, high pitches that are distorted and compressed, then low-passed for warmth and smoothness. Ideally, you'd make a single screech, render/bounce it, then use that with no other effects. Possibly pair it with itself, pitched down. EQ to taste. Kind of like that Kid606 song, Mr. Wobble, where it's obviously a resampled bass note, but still sounds alright. When I did it, I didn't resample, simply because I like the way different notes interact with the signal chain. And so, my horrible attempt is another part of the example below.

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Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:13 pm
by antman
Whats up guys, I'm wondering how to get this sort of....err....glassy bass sound?

I can't really explain it but its kind of high pitched in a way? But has this glassy sound to idk.

The sounds can be heard in both these tracks.




Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:07 pm
by Canonmusic
@kikaruu: Any idea what kind of wave we are looking at? And thanks a lot by the way

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:26 pm
by kikaruu
@antman: If I'm understanding you correctly, the easiest way would be to add a third to your oscillator rack. Notching a frequency always helps, as does formant boosting/cutting. Also, a very short delay, working as a basic comb filter, could work. There also seems to be a cabinet simulator type effect on that Coki bass. So, that's everything I tried in the example below.

Example

@Canonmusic: My example was made with sines. Once distorted and run through filters, however, the wave looks odd/hard to describe. Here's an image (click for larger size) from a spectrogram showing the synth in the Trolley Snatcher tune, if that helps. The spectrogram also shows some nice harmonics that are easily generated by a lo-fi filter (or similar distortion). I didn't use one, and hence those harmonics are not present in my section.

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Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:30 am
by enthawizeguy

how do you make the bass sound at 16 seconds


how do you make the bass at 1:16



how do you make the main bass sound as well as the sounds in the intro


thanks in advance

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:03 pm
by 5415
I'm looking for any advice on how to make the bassline that can be heard clearly around 2.28 in this



Thanks :)

Re: Nero-style synth/bass

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:16 pm
by cmgoodman1226
RevIllusion wrote:My first post! :D
Sorry I haven't helped anyone out on these forums so far, I'm very new to the producing world so there's little I can help with. Makes me feel like a d*** :(
Anyways, does anyone have any idea how to produce the bass drop featured at 1:08 in Nero's remix of Plan B's 'The Recluse,' and if possible, the variant of the higher-pitched at 1:13?
I think there's two different basses to make this sound but I am a n00b and as such have no idea how to make this sound.
Any help in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!

Here's the patch I made. It doesn't sound quite as beefy but I'd say I got pretty close. Let me know if you want the details.
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Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:43 pm
by joshisrad
Nicely done CM, post it up!

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:52 pm
by cmgoodman1226
joshisrad wrote:Nicely done CM, post it up!
If you have massive, pm me and I'll email you the 2 patches.

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:43 am
by Canonmusic
@kikaruu: Do you know if massive or ableton have the kind of lo-fi filter you are talking about??

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:21 am
by kikaruu
I couldn't say, as I use neither. But, lo-fi is kind of a standard effect in most DAWs, so it's probably in Ableton already. If not, just find a simple bitcrush vst. Maybe add a tube emulator. When I return home, I'll try to get closer to the sound.

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:52 am
by joshisrad
Canonmusic wrote:@kikaruu: Do you know if massive or ableton have the kind of lo-fi filter you are talking about??
Use Ableton's "Redux" plug

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:40 am
by Klesherdubs
can anyone help me make the bass of this or anything similar Im making dark tracks and just can't make a deep dark bass well enough, Im using albino 3 and massive so it can help for either thanks in advance

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:04 am
by kikaruu
@Canonmusic: I started fresh this time, and I think I got a bit closer. The lofi/bitcrush helped a tad, and I made a synth in unison, an octave up. Listen here.

@Klesherdubs: Midrange saw, unison, into a low-shelf filter with high resonance + comb filter, somewhere around maybe 15 Hz + shallow chorus. Play around with it for a unique result. Listen here.

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:13 am
by cmgoodman1226
Canonmusic wrote:@kikaruu: Do you know if massive or ableton have the kind of lo-fi filter you are talking about??

Massive has both a bitcrusher and A "resample" effect, both of which downsample the synth. I personally don't use those though. NI's Kontakt has a great lofi distortion unit that I use quite frequently though.

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:16 pm
by invictus
How to make the bass that comes with the drop? (1:05)

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This kind of crunchy, drilling sound :)

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:32 pm
by Augment
invictus wrote:How to make the bass that comes with the drop? (1:05)

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This kind of crunchy, drilling sound :)
Look up Flux Pavilion got 2 know tutorial on youtube, and tweak the patch :W:

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:30 pm
by Moxix
with reference to the xkore growl, ive made a sound thats fairly similar.. not identical but similar on my facebook you can grab here

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moxix/179 ... 3661491992

it would be made better with the WOW filter or the tone2 filters, but dry out of massive thats something i made.

this isn't a cheap attempt to get you guys on my page, if you want a vocal,beastly growl sound its there.. dont even have to like the page unlike those other pages that promise rainbows and bass for a like! :)

Re: How To Make This Sound - January 2012

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:41 am
by axolotl-dubstep
Hey DSF,
How the main bass wobble in this made? It's really fat and has a really good tone to it, I've been playing around with sines but can't get it,



Thanks so much to anyone that can help :)