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TL_ wrote:

magma wrote:

TL_ wrote:To be honest I think that Invisible Children is a very shady organisation, they seem to exaggerate the facts in order to further their own goals, and are most definitely driving forward something to increase their own bank balances.

Obviously Kony is not a nice guy. But there does that mean we should dedicate 2012 to the sole purpose of arresting him?



Interpol currently lists 107 people being wanted for war crimes. Do they not deserve to be made just as famous as Kony? Or can humanity only manage to care about one thing at a time?

Have a look at the amount of threads currently on the main page of this one forum, stories on all the news websites or trending topics on Twitter... it's clearly perfectly possible to absorb/engage with this campaign, live the rest of your life AND be interested in other things.

Why do people assume that by agreeing with some of the sentiment of a YouTube video and sending it to your mates you're agreeing to dedicate your entire year to capturing a single man?! When has that ever happened about anything? We're humans, not pocket calculators.

A bit of balance, ninjas!

I was talking more about humanity as a collective

So was I. Clearly as a collective we're thinking about an awful lot of different things all the time. There are 7 billion of us... even if 10 million people dedicated an entire year to physically scouring Africa on their hands and knees for this dude, there would still be 6.99 billion of us thinking about other shit.

As it is, there's probably a few hundred actually dedicating any time to it. It's really nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

knell wrote:

TL_ wrote:To be honest I think that Invisible Children is a very shady organisation, they seem to exaggerate the facts in order to further their own goals, and are most definitely driving forward something to increase their own bank balances.

Obviously Kony is not a nice guy. But there does that mean we should dedicate 2012 to the sole purpose of arresting him?

Interpol currently lists 107 people being wanted for war crimes. Do they not deserve to be made just as famous as Kony? Or can humanity only manage to care about one thing at a time?

devils(?) advocate:

they do respond to the most prominent criticisms here, which is also linked on their home page.

i really want to believe they're genuine. misguided? probably. but still, the level of interaction they have with the shitstorm they've created is pretty admirable.

either way, this is the most astounding viral marketing campaign I've witnessed... 30m views in 28 hours... not even RebBlack pulled those stats off.

Yeah, I mean, I want them to be genuine guys but the problem seems to be that they have a veneer.. I'm not really sure how to explain it without this seeming like a BM post...

But anyway these are the guys in charge of this whole thing...

TL_ wrote: Yeah, I mean, I want them to be genuine guys but the problem seems to be that they have a veneer.. I'm not really sure how to explain it without this seeming like a BM post...

But anyway these are the guys in charge of this whole thing...

i agree, but again, just to be sure both sides are heard, the IC response to this image is:

A story told by Jason Russell: The photo of Bobby, Laren and I with the guns was taken in an LRA camp in DRC during the 2008 Juba Peace Talks. We were there to see Joseph Kony come to the table to sign the Final Peace Agreement. The Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was surrounding our camp for protection since Sudan was mediating the peace talks. We wanted to talk to them and film them and get their perspective. And because Bobby, Laren and I are friends and had been doing this for 5 years, we thought it would be funny to bring back to our friends and family a joke photo. You know, “Haha - they have bazookas in their hands but they’re actually fighting for peace.” The ironic thing about this photo is that I HATE guns. I always have. Back in 2008 I wanted this war to end, like we all did, peacefully, through peace talks. But Kony was not interested in that; he kept killing. And we still don’t want war. We don’t want him killed and we don’t want bombs dropped. We want him alive and captured and brought to justice.

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knell wrote:

TL_ wrote: Yeah, I mean, I want them to be genuine guys but the problem seems to be that they have a veneer.. I'm not really sure how to explain it without this seeming like a BM post...

But anyway these are the guys in charge of this whole thing...

i agree, but again, just to be sure both sides are heard, the IC response to this image is:

A story told by Jason Russell: The photo of Bobby, Laren and I with the guns was taken in an LRA camp in DRC during the 2008 Juba Peace Talks. We were there to see Joseph Kony come to the table to sign the Final Peace Agreement. The Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was surrounding our camp for protection since Sudan was mediating the peace talks. We wanted to talk to them and film them and get their perspective. And because Bobby, Laren and I are friends and had been doing this for 5 years, we thought it would be funny to bring back to our friends and family a joke photo. You know, “Haha - they have bazookas in their hands but they’re actually fighting for peace.” The ironic thing about this photo is that I HATE guns. I always have. Back in 2008 I wanted this war to end, like we all did, peacefully, through peace talks. But Kony was not interested in that; he kept killing. And we still don’t want war. We don’t want him killed and we don’t want bombs dropped. We want him alive and captured and brought to justice.

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"I was setting up my decks just to take some photo for a graphics project I was assigned."

This has been going on for decades, does it seriously take a video and chain posts on facebook for people to notice. Half of them couldn't give a shit anyway. Something fundamentally wrong right there.

JBoy wrote:This has been going on for decades, does it seriously take a video and chain posts on facebook for people to notice. Half of them couldn't give a shit anyway. Something fundamentally wrong right there.

cos if you dont pass it on a ghost will haunt your dreams forever so you have to click like on the facebook page and they give you a special code only after you share it to all your friends and then it appears on your screen so you have to give the code to the ghost and then you can go back to your normal dreams init

The ghost cant get me because i dont use gaybook.

JBoy wrote:The ghost cant get me because i dont use gaybook.

then fuck it

apmje wrote:
"I Can't Stop"
Performed by Flux Pavilion
Flux Pavilion appears courtesy of Circus Records Limited

Boycott, boycott!!!!

I knew i couldn't have been the only one to have noticed that the video used 'I can't stop'. Throughout the whole video im like this is cheesy and i feel bad for Gavin for being used like that, but then Flux Pavilion's track came on and im like YEAH!!!

now i do feel a bit bad that the thing i cared about mostly from the video was that it featured a dubstep track//

Apologies in adance

Rant in 3....2......1....

What annoys me about this is that all the people on my wacebook wall are only posting this because it's the latest "Look at what a good person I am" bullshit bandwagon that people go on about. Just an excuse for people to feel like the hero for a minute.

I gurantee that not one single person I know that is talking about this is actually going to make a concerted effort to work towards the solution because the people posting it are the same people who are now posting pictures of that african kid meme photo with captions like "woke up today, didn't get abducted by Kony".
No one will donate even a penny to the cause, no one will read more about it. Having that Kony poster on their wall is their idea of solving the worlds problems. Their way of showing how much they care without caring.

I hope people will take notice and try to fix the worlds problems, But everyday there are causes that can even affect and solve problems that are much closer to home and much more personal to all of us that no one takes any notice of and It grinds my gears that people get so angry about things for 2 minutes until the next injustice they have never heard of goes viral but won't do anything to help it.

I don't want to sound like a total tnuc here so apologies again, But I just needed to get it off my chest.

weedlefruit wrote:Apologies in adance

Rant in 3....2......1....

What annoys me about this is that all the people on my wacebook wall are only posting this because it's the latest "Look at what a good person I am" bullshit bandwagon that people go on about. Just an excuse for people to feel like the hero for a minute.

I gurantee that not one single person I know that is talking about this is actually going to make a concerted effort to work towards the solution because the people posting it are the same people who are now posting pictures of that african kid meme photo with captions like "woke up today, didn't get abducted by Kony".
No one will donate even a penny to the cause, no one will read more about it. Having that Kony poster on their wall is their idea of solving the worlds problems. Their way of showing how much they care without caring.

I hope people will take notice and try to fix the worlds problems, But everyday there are causes that can even affect and solve problems that are much closer to home and much more personal to all of us that no one takes any notice of and It grinds my gears that people get so angry about things for 2 minutes until the next injustice they have never heard of goes viral but won't do anything to help it.

I don't want to sound like a total tnuc here so apologies again, But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Dont apolagise, youre spot on mate. Anyone that cant see that is seriously misguided.

JBoy wrote:

weedlefruit wrote:Apologies in adance

Rant in 3....2......1....

What annoys me about this is that all the people on my wacebook wall are only posting this because it's the latest "Look at what a good person I am" bullshit bandwagon that people go on about. Just an excuse for people to feel like the hero for a minute.

I gurantee that not one single person I know that is talking about this is actually going to make a concerted effort to work towards the solution because the people posting it are the same people who are now posting pictures of that african kid meme photo with captions like "woke up today, didn't get abducted by Kony".
No one will donate even a penny to the cause, no one will read more about it. Having that Kony poster on their wall is their idea of solving the worlds problems. Their way of showing how much they care without caring.

I hope people will take notice and try to fix the worlds problems, But everyday there are causes that can even affect and solve problems that are much closer to home and much more personal to all of us that no one takes any notice of and It grinds my gears that people get so angry about things for 2 minutes until the next injustice they have never heard of goes viral but won't do anything to help it.

I don't want to sound like a total tnuc here so apologies again, But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Dont apolagise, youre spot on mate. Anyone that cant see that is seriously misguided.

Cheers, I didn't want to be that contrarian guy that posts on everyones status' to say how benign and masturbatory the posting of this stuff is as most of them are my friends but cripes, Make a difference or leave it!

What's also funny is that people trust the same government that said there were nukes in Iraq and have been occupying Afghanistan for 10+ years to waltz into Uganda, get the job done, and go home.

weedlefruit wrote:

JBoy wrote:

weedlefruit wrote:Apologies in adance

Rant in 3....2......1....

What annoys me about this is that all the people on my wacebook wall are only posting this because it's the latest "Look at what a good person I am" bullshit bandwagon that people go on about. Just an excuse for people to feel like the hero for a minute.

I gurantee that not one single person I know that is talking about this is actually going to make a concerted effort to work towards the solution because the people posting it are the same people who are now posting pictures of that african kid meme photo with captions like "woke up today, didn't get abducted by Kony".
No one will donate even a penny to the cause, no one will read more about it. Having that Kony poster on their wall is their idea of solving the worlds problems. Their way of showing how much they care without caring.

I hope people will take notice and try to fix the worlds problems, But everyday there are causes that can even affect and solve problems that are much closer to home and much more personal to all of us that no one takes any notice of and It grinds my gears that people get so angry about things for 2 minutes until the next injustice they have never heard of goes viral but won't do anything to help it.

I don't want to sound like a total tnuc here so apologies again, But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Dont apolagise, youre spot on mate. Anyone that cant see that is seriously misguided.

Cheers, I didn't want to be that contrarian guy that posts on everyones status' to say how benign and masturbatory the posting of this stuff is as most of them are my friends but cripes, Make a difference or leave it!

I don't want to be that contrarian guy that comments on everyones posts to say how benign and masturbatory the posting of this stuff is as none of you are my friends but cripes, delete your facebook or leave it!

You lot are going to find your gears increasingly ground in the modern world... it used to take a bestselling novel and a couple of decades to let the world know about something, now it takes a day and a half. I'd suggest getting slightly thicker skin... if you find other people showing an interest in a cause that doesn't interest you that much upsetting, you're really going to be at the end of your tether by the end of the decade.

Tbh, I'm not sure that's really why most people are taking a contrary position on this at all - it smacks of elitism to me. People are desperate to be seen to dislike the cause because it got so popular too quickly and so it doesn't feel cool or clever. Same reason most people don't like Adele, Brostep and LOLCats.

weedlefruit wrote:Apologies in adance

Rant in 3....2......1....

What annoys me about this is that all the people on my wacebook wall are only posting this because it's the latest "Look at what a good person I am" bullshit bandwagon that people go on about. Just an excuse for people to feel like the hero for a minute.

I gurantee that not one single person I know that is talking about this is actually going to make a concerted effort to work towards the solution because the people posting it are the same people who are now posting pictures of that african kid meme photo with captions like "woke up today, didn't get abducted by Kony".
No one will donate even a penny to the cause, no one will read more about it. Having that Kony poster on their wall is their idea of solving the worlds problems. Their way of showing how much they care without caring.

I hope people will take notice and try to fix the worlds problems, But everyday there are causes that can even affect and solve problems that are much closer to home and much more personal to all of us that no one takes any notice of and It grinds my gears that people get so angry about things for 2 minutes until the next injustice they have never heard of goes viral but won't do anything to help it.

I don't want to sound like a total tnuc here so apologies again, But I just needed to get it off my chest.

My thoughts exactly

magma wrote:You lot are going to find your gears increasingly ground in the modern world... it used to take a bestselling novel and a couple of decades to let the world know about something, now it takes a day and a half. I'd suggest getting slightly thicker skin... if you find other people showing an interest in a cause that doesn't interest you that much upsetting, you're really going to be at the end of your tether by the end of the decade.

Tbh, I'm not sure that's really why most people are taking a contrary position on this at all - it smacks of elitism to me. People are desperate to be seen to dislike the cause because it got so popular too quickly and so it doesn't feel cool or clever. Same reason most people don't like Adele, Brostep and LOLCats.

I wish I could elevate myself from the crowd by claiming insight into people's motivations for dissent so I can be a supporter, but in the intellectual elite of supporters.

magma wrote:You lot are going to find your gears increasingly ground in the modern world... it used to take a bestselling novel and a couple of decades to let the world know about something, now it takes a day and a half. I'd suggest getting slightly thicker skin... if you find other people showing an interest in a cause that doesn't interest you that much upsetting, you're really going to be at the end of your tether by the end of the decade.

Tbh, I'm not sure that's really why most people are taking a contrary position on this at all - it smacks of elitism to me. People are desperate to be seen to dislike the cause because it got so popular too quickly and so it doesn't feel cool or clever. Same reason most people don't like Adele, Brostep and LOLCats.

NOBODY DISLIKES LOLCATS TAKE IT BACK

The only thing that bothers me is false people that claim to support a cause but clearly wouldnt do anything to help it. As a nation weve wasted enough money on lost causes and pointless wars, we should look to our own problems first, like a shit government thats destroying us from within. The whole africa situation is like rubbing suncream on a burns victim.