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Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:05 am**

I know this must sound ridiculous,
But i can't think of a good enough intro to any of my tracks. I make the drums and everything just fine. I just can't come up with a good enough one to suit my interests. I just want it to be super br00tal but when i sit down at my computer i have no ideas. any tips to help me out? Thanks.

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:09 am**

filter things in and out, slowing add things in, and try to build tension

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:10 am**

Arps or good melodies, heavy pads and chords, background fx (crowd/bird/rain noises) ?
Build everything up to the drop in sections and then drop it

Oh and white noise.

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:21 am**

Also a good 4 bar long chord progression can help getting started

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:37 am**

Thanks alot guys,
I'm really more looking for like, a way to get started with it. Like, I know i want to make something that's upbeat and heavy. that's the basic idea that i have, it's just that, i don't know where to go from there. I sound like big chocolate or funtcase, maybe even a little bit of zomboy, I just don't know how to get the juices flowing.

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:46 am**

Dick about on a keyboard, get a simple melody, layer it in a few synths, lay some accompanying chord stabs around, vengeance samples, heavily compressed drums, bam.

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:21 am**

if you want it be to br00t, just do 32 bars of white noise with band pass filter automation and a screechy noise slowly pitch sliding up and a kick or snare pattern that goes like 1...2...3...4...1...2...3...4...1.2.3.4.1.2.3.4.12341234buzzing sound while your bass is filtered out just before the climax.

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:25 am**

not brootal enough.
sample car crashes / natural disasters

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:21 am**

Oh and a sample of a mean guy with his voice pitched down

Posted: **Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:31 am**

daydreamer wrote:I know this must sound ridiculous,
But i can't think of a good enough intro to any of my tracks. I make the drums and everything just fine. I just can't come up with a good enough one to suit my interests. I just want it to be super br00tal but when i sit down at my computer i have no ideas. any tips to help me out? Thanks.

I love using crackles like rain/vinyl pops and more things like that with pads. Just me though

Not br00tal but... really smooth sounding. I think Flying Lotus <--(legendary producer) always starts with crackles and things that pop. It gives really good atmosphere for the whole track and the intro

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:57 am**

I think space and atmosphere are the most important for intros. Tease the listeners with sparse beats and off hits with reverb and delay filling in the gaps. Depends how you want your drop to hit though really...

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:11 am**

You can sort of "preview" a bandpassed reverby delayed version of your main midrange every now and the in the back of your mix, sometimes that is cool.

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:05 am**

i dunno about br00tal but some of rusko's intros are just hi passed or maybe band passed like someone said, versions of the lead synth that have been 2x sped up, but obviously over some ambience. i'd say they're a good place to be uninhibited by convention, though hi passing sub bass out of everything works for me often.

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:40 am**

think of a riff that will go over the top of your midrange bass or subline, voila intro at which point you can drop this riff in over everything else as your tune reaches its highest point

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:36 am**

daydreamer wrote:I sound like big chocolate or funtcase, maybe even a little bit of zomboy

I really doubt that's true if you need to ask how to make an intro...

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:10 am**

wub wrote:Ok, things to try for intros;

Take a sample, stretch it out by 400%, add some reverb and filtering, insert as an intro

Have an echoey version of your lead synth pattern that floats about for a minute, before dropping out as the main drum kicks in

If your tune has a vocal, then take a dry version of the vocal sample, add some reverse reverb to it with a LONG tail (take sample > reverse it > add reverb > bounce > then reverse back to normal) to insert as an intro. The reverse reverb tail at the start of the vocal will sound like it's sucking itself in before it hits (see Prodigy - Firestarter for an example of how this works on vocals)

Add some pads with a basic hat pattern running under them, gradually rising in tone.

Introduce your main kick pattern from the get go, but with some processing on the drum so that it is filtered, with the filter gradually rising as the tune introduces itself, then when it properly drops have the filter off the drum altogether so it hits with more prescence

Add a long white noise sweep with some filtering/delay that gradually builds to a crescendo, before dropping out with heavy reverb as the drums kick in

Take an 8 bar drum loop from that middle of the tune, run it through dBGlitch a half dozen times on random settings, and bounce out. Drop all the outputted glitch versions into your audio editor, cut the shit out of them then stitch them back together. Add liberal filtering/EQ to remove any rogue frequencies, insert the audio file as your intro.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:05 am**

vengeance samples

those samples are ugly, over compressed, agressive, unmixable

I just can't come up with a good enough one to suit my interests. I just want it to be super br00tal but when i sit down at my computer i have no ideas. any tips to help me out? Thanks.

i usually go on youtube to find something like a speech or a music, on it i play with pitch\timestrech and make my drums following the time strech..

then a loop on the sample, pitch rising up

with a sweep or a white noise with a long pitch envelloppe

playing the drop synth melody with a light cord is usual to

I think Flying Lotus <--(legendary producer) always starts with crackles and things that pop. It gives really good atmosphere for the whole track and the intro

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:08 am**

^ not all vengeance samples are agressive, it just depends what vibe your going for.. i actually find them easier to use in chilled out tracks.

Intros are a tricky subject though, its easy enough to give a structure to what should happen but putting it into practise is another level.
What i tend to do is start with an idea and loop it for 4 bars, and build it up to the point where its sounding nice and full with plenty of elements to keep it interesting. After that i deconstruct and gradually introduce different parts in the buildup to keep it interesting then start to delete parts and make small changes and add a few incidentals.
I try to avoid risers in the intro because im still not too great with their synthesis but if you can build it up to make it fit then go for it.
Its all about giving the listener a taste of the idea you want the song to be based around without giving too much away

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:26 am**

Dr_Driller wrote:
vengeance samples
those samples are ugly, over compressed, agressive, unmixable

Honestly this is bullshit, but each to their own.

The only reason I mentioned them was the OP wanted to sound like Zomboy - Zomboy packs his tracks full of Vengeance samples/one shots.

Posted: **Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:43 pm**

np, lots of people like and use vengeance sample

i was just giving my opinion and they are the exact inverse of the musicality i look for in a sample bank

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