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Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:32 pm
by jrkhnds
DiegoSapiens wrote:yeah but we are talking of the dubstep period
if the new Keysound stuff is grime, most of the newer Hessle releases are dubstep aswell - or atleast so heavily informed by dubstep that it shouldn't make a difference. everything most of us love about the early dubstep releases is there: off-kilter percussion, emphasis on subbass, tension through manipulation of space...
if we're considering stuff between 135 and 145 exclusively, the only label that can match Hessle's first fourteen releases with a similar streak of pure fire is probably Tempa - even DMZ can't hold up to that imho.
whatever, I won't be able to change your oppinion and vice-versa, so let's just agree there was (and still is) some amazing music being put out.
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:36 pm
by Genevieve
Muncey wrote:Although I get the difference between DMZ & Hessle, I don't agree you still can't compare. Greatest label depends on what you define a great label as, if its based on the quality of music.. of course you can compare DMZ & Hessle. If your idea of a great label includes pushing new artists forward obviously you can't compare them. If your idea of a great label is the relevance and importance it had in a scene, again you can compare.
Theres no official criteria on what is or isn't a label.
I don't disagree entirely, but it's an odd comparison since both release music very differently, not in that one is a label and one isn't. You can definitely compare DMZ's output with Hessle's output and say 'I like DMZ better than Hessle', and I'm not saying that labels are good for 'pushing sounds' or 'getting artists heard'; what good would it be if all the artists a label introduces are shit vs a collective self-releasing music that is great?
But I do believe that the output of either label will be of such a different nature, that I don't think you can make a fair qualitative comparison. DMZ releases a very specific aesthetic (even the heavier/wobblier tunes definitely fit with the dubbier ones) by a small number of musicians in limited quantities. Hessle releases an ever-evolving range of aesthetics from an expanding roster of artists. And considering those factors, I don't believe it's a fair comparison. The same way I wouldn't compare, say, Remarc as an artist to Reinforced's entire back catalogue.
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:38 pm
by titchbit
RKM wrote:and ive never really felt kode9 beyond 9samurai and fat larry
+ tales from the bass side and i fully agree.
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:48 pm
by Johoosh
Medi
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:06 pm
by Muncey
Genevieve wrote:Muncey wrote:Although I get the difference between DMZ & Hessle, I don't agree you still can't compare. Greatest label depends on what you define a great label as, if its based on the quality of music.. of course you can compare DMZ & Hessle. If your idea of a great label includes pushing new artists forward obviously you can't compare them. If your idea of a great label is the relevance and importance it had in a scene, again you can compare.
Theres no official criteria on what is or isn't a label.
I don't disagree entirely, but it's an odd comparison since both release music very differently, not in that one is a label and one isn't. You can definitely compare DMZ's output with Hessle's output and say 'I like DMZ better than Hessle', and I'm not saying that labels are good for 'pushing sounds' or 'getting artists heard'; what good would it be if all the artists a label introduces are shit vs a collective self-releasing music that is bad?
But I do believe that the output of either label will be of such a different nature, that I don't think you can make a fair qualitative comparison. DMZ releases a very specific aesthetic (even the heavier/wobblier tunes definitely fit with the dubbier ones) by a small number of musicians in limited quantities. Hessle releases an ever-evolving range of aesthetics from an expanding roster of artists. And considering those factors, I don't believe it's a fair comparison. The same way I wouldn't compare, say, Remarc as an artist to Reinforced's entire back catalogue.
Yeah fair enough, I get ya. Although I don't think you'd consider labels under the same criteria anyway.. I wouldn't try to make a fair qualitative comparison with, say, Hyperdub and Hessle because they too release music in very different ways. Hyperdub must put out more tunes in a year than Hessles whole backcatalogue.. and as you say they have an ever-evolving range of aesthetics from an expanding roster of artists (all singles bar the compilation).. Hyperdub put out like a couple albums a year and countless singles from all different producers and all different styles. I'd put DMZ at one end of the spectrum and Hyperdub on the other.. Hessle for me would be somewhere in between. I guess its not a case of comparing the labels on a like-for-like basis but taking their individual attributes and trying to sort of 'rank' them with that info.
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:03 pm
by leeany
Quite shocking that Hyperdub gets so little love here, my favorite ''dubstep'' label by far
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:55 pm
by titchbit
why isn't dub police on there?
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:56 pm
by ultraspatial
lol
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:11 pm
by Lye_Form
Circus
serius tho skull disco with just hessle second
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:13 pm
by dickman69
Why is this not in general discussion
Mods pls
The sight of dubstep themed threads nausiates me, need a thread talking about bathroom etiquette to compensate for this
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:19 pm
by Muncey
Muncey wrote:I think dubstep in general is seen as overrated by 99% of SNH. Most people active on here don't really both with post-2009 dubstep that much anymore, thats the general impression anyway.. hence why this thread isn't in General Discussion
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:28 pm
by titchbit
Srsly tho dub police????
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:50 pm
by DiegoSapiens
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:08 am
by Phigure
the only really good tune dub police ever put out was the way of the dub caspa rmx
wish midnight was out so i could blend it like on dubstep allstars vol 2
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:07 am
by titchbit
way of the dub remix was a good un
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:49 am
by leyenda
Dub Police isn't even the best Caspa label
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:05 am
by deadly_habit
i know someone mentioned argon already and loved the planet mu isn't pure dubestep but hessle is argument, but what about berkane sol?
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:07 am
by deadly_habit
LumiNiscent wrote:Quite shocking that Hyperdub gets so little love here, my favorite ''dubstep'' label by far
because half their releases including burial weren't dubstep but were crossing genre lines.
ffs burial was originally marketed as garage/2step
it was the same as toasty etc where they were doing something new no one knew what to label.
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:23 am
by cyclopian
Really cant beleive no one's mentioned Rottun records yet..
(sry)
Re: [POLL] Greatest 'Dubstep' record label?
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:25 am
by deadly_habit
andius wrote:Really cant beleive no one's mentioned Rottun records yet..
(sry)
we said dubstep not brostep
they used to have a hell of a catalog back when though
http://www.discogs.com/label/98005-Rottun-Recordings
shit shift used to have a catalog and i was on them, but yeah more bro than dubstep
http://www.discogs.com/label/115535-Shift-Recordings-2