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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:39 pm
by freqone
showguns wrote:if you're over 18 and still doing illegal graf you need to grow the fuck up. sorry if that offends anyone, but seriously, grow the fuck up and paint a canvas or something.
You're pretty unaware of what urban art is and/or street art??? It's highly respected among contemporary and fine artists as well as dealers and collectors. Steeet artists (not vandals) are very much so considered the innovators in todays current art culture, world wide.
I personally stick to canvas.
The handstyle on those throwups is signature I'v seen this around Ontario.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:55 pm
by freqone
p.s. iv seen a collaboration peice he did with a friend of mine,, on canvas btw....and on and off the streeet this boy has some creativity

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:36 pm
by bob crunkhouse
spiro wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:tagging is for complete mugs! some of the other stuff is ok i guess.
this comment could go into thew most classic off all comments on graff ever !!!
It´s just what to put in the "Most amusing Dubstep comment??" tread . . .
only for "Most amusing Graff comment??" . . .
go fuck yourself you condescending prick, nearly everything in this thread is pathetic that does nothing but bring down the areas its done in imo. No winners for guessing the "most amusing pastime for over 18's!"

but seriously how old are you lot doing this "graff"?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:38 pm
by bob crunkhouse
i hope you lot know what im talking about as well, the anyman thoughtless tag of your name or something lame like that is what i hate, not the thought out intelligent graffiti, which there is a severe lack of in this thread.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:45 pm
by cure
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:i hope you lot know what im talking about as well, the anyman thoughtless tag of your name or something lame like that is what i hate, not the thought out intelligent graffiti, which there is a severe lack of in this thread.
you totally have a point...but the thread title is "the ugly side of graff" its pretty clear what is going on in this thread....

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:50 pm
by bombaman
wow, still so much ignorance...

to those who say that doing graff, whether it be on canvas or street, is for people under 18, PLEASE tell that to SEEN, who is now in his forties and STILL painting. not only is he still painting, but any graff font or...well, ANYTHING graff related can all go right back to that guy. he started it all in 1973, with sick handstyle, 34 years later he is still doing his thing and is extremely successful because of it.

some of toronto's best writers are all well above 25, still hold down proper jobs, yet STILL find time to go out and bomb and paint murals!

saying you have to be a kid to still be doing graff is like saying you have be under 17 to enjoy that garbage they call jungle now-a-days...it makes no sense...people do what they want to do, when they want to cuz it makes them happy. no matter what their age.

some of the freshest shit out there is the 'ugly' stuff. street tagging and bombing is so much fun, some people will never understand. it's like, some people like bacon and eggs, some people like toast and coffee...some people like to go out and bomb, some people like to stay inside and read books...

can you 'haters' not see eye to eye with what makes people happy?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:48 pm
by spiro
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
spiro wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:tagging is for complete mugs! some of the other stuff is ok i guess.
this comment could go into thew most classic off all comments on graff ever !!!
It´s just what to put in the "Most amusing Dubstep comment??" tread . . .
only for "Most amusing Graff comment??" . . .
go fuck yourself you condescending prick, nearly everything in this thread is pathetic that does nothing but bring down the areas its done in imo. No winners for guessing the "most amusing pastime for over 18's!"

but seriously how old are you lot doing this "graff"?
why all this aggression?
I tried to show my views on graff in a thread intended for writers . . .

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:58 pm
by cure
spiro wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
spiro wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:tagging is for complete mugs! some of the other stuff is ok i guess.
this comment could go into thew most classic off all comments on graff ever !!!
It´s just what to put in the "Most amusing Dubstep comment??" tread . . .
only for "Most amusing Graff comment??" . . .
go fuck yourself you condescending prick, nearly everything in this thread is pathetic that does nothing but bring down the areas its done in imo. No winners for guessing the "most amusing pastime for over 18's!"

but seriously how old are you lot doing this "graff"?
why all this aggression?
I tried to show my views on graff in a thread intended for writers . . .
dont sweat it dude...people go agro over stuff they dont understand...you arnt the one looking ignorant in a GRAFF THREAD that says WRITERS PLEASE POST.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:32 pm
by scarecrow
Easy now people!
Farkeeen ell. Al man did was post up some pics, shit.
Good to see so many open minded folks up in here lol.

Anyways, I like your style Asek, Some of the letters are proper wonky, but most are very forward thinking. Gwan mate. You do any pieces/characters?

It's not for everyone, but each to their own I suppose, I gave up a while back.... usual reasons really, started making tunes instead of art, audio graf init?
Peace.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:50 pm
by human?
big up asek!!!! styles is fresh man.....


and big up teaser too!!!! thats cool peoples :)



lol@ yall who cant figure it out...



graff for the win everytime, KEEP IT SMASHED!!!!!!!!





one
human?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:23 pm
by bob crunkhouse
Am i missing something here?

Asek, this is your work right?

Image

And this is the work that your all bigging up!?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:30 pm
by human?
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:Am i missing something here?

Asek, this is your work right?

Image

And this is the work that your all bigging up!?

hell yeah, that hand is fresh.

dont really like the e, but the a, s & k are dope...


not the best hand ever lol, but def stylish..



SMASH!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:43 pm
by lloydnoise
human? wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:Am i missing something here?

Asek, this is your work right?

Image

And this is the work that your all bigging up!?

hell yeah, that hand is fresh.

dont really like the e, but the a, s & k are dope...


not the best hand ever lol, but def stylish..



SMASH!!!!!!!!!


umm wow. I have to agree with Bob C here, how old are you lot??
the picture above appears to be on someones front door and has no artistic merit beyond a teenager with a spraycan. If you want to practice how "rad" your A's R's and K's look, can't you write them on a bit of paper or spray them onto something YOU own??
again I'll ask the question; HOW OLD ARE YOU LOT??????
I assume most of you are over 20 (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Graffitti done properly can be amazing but "tagging" is the lamest most childish manifestation of this. Why do you want to write your made-up name everywhere? Why not do 1 amazing piece of ART and put your name on that? surely more impressive.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:44 pm
by spiro
lloydnoise wrote: Why not do 1 amazing piece of ART and put your name on that? surely more impressive.
It´s not about that name everywhere !
I had to stop bombing around 25ish, too many 24 hours shifts in the holding cell . . .

ITS ABOUT STYLE !
Most people I know have worked like 5-10-15 years to work up a set off letters that they feel is theirs! And if you look at a set of typefaces and compare it to a good tag, then you should bee able to see the complexity of lines and style and understand its all about style.

And the picture you have chosen to comment is probably not a very good example.
Anyway i would say if you look closely at the line at the A and the S, there should bee no doubt that ASEK have put in nuff work on paper !

try copy the style . . .

And keep in mind that bombing have an extra aspect, TIME.
Anyone can sit down at home and work hour after hour and get something right.
If you are out bombing you got one go! a few seconds of time.
TOTAL CONCENTRATION.

Can´t any of you skeptics see the style elements in this ?
Is it just a name on the wall ?
spiro wrote: Image
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:01 pm
by human?
lloydnoise wrote:
umm wow. I have to agree with Bob C here, how old are you lot??
the picture above appears to be on someones front door and has no artistic merit beyond a teenager with a spraycan. If you want to practice how "rad" your A's R's and K's look, can't you write them on a bit of paper or spray them onto something YOU own??
again I'll ask the question; HOW OLD ARE YOU LOT??????
I assume most of you are over 20 (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Graffitti done properly can be amazing but "tagging" is the lamest most childish manifestation of this. Why do you want to write your made-up name everywhere? Why not do 1 amazing piece of ART and put your name on that? surely more impressive.
fuck "art".

the return of the paleolithic!!!!!!!!!!!

graff, ILLEGAL graff, is actually imho, THE ONLY GENUINE MODERN ART THERE IS.


all other so called art is commodity. and is essentially useless, especially while locked up in art prisons called museums & galleries.

so fuck "art".....


live life, and live it well past 20 lol...


smashsmashsmashsmashsmash

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:07 pm
by bob crunkhouse
human? wrote:
lloydnoise wrote:
umm wow. I have to agree with Bob C here, how old are you lot??
the picture above appears to be on someones front door and has no artistic merit beyond a teenager with a spraycan. If you want to practice how "rad" your A's R's and K's look, can't you write them on a bit of paper or spray them onto something YOU own??
again I'll ask the question; HOW OLD ARE YOU LOT??????
I assume most of you are over 20 (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Graffitti done properly can be amazing but "tagging" is the lamest most childish manifestation of this. Why do you want to write your made-up name everywhere? Why not do 1 amazing piece of ART and put your name on that? surely more impressive.
fuck "art".

the return of the paleolithic!!!!!!!!!!!

graff, ILLEGAL graff, is actually imho, THE ONLY GENUINE MODERN ART THERE IS.


all other so called art is commodity. and is essentially useless, especially while locked up in art prisons called museums & galleries.

so fuck "art".....


live life, and live it well past 20 lol...


smashsmashsmashsmashsmash
hhahahahahah art prisons!! ahahhahaha "illegal graff" being the only modern art hahahahahahahaah, ure giving me a fucking heart attack, ahahahahaahahahaahaaAHAHAHAHA!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:09 pm
by lloydnoise
lol @ art prison. u r a douche

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:13 pm
by bob crunkhouse
spiro wrote: Image
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I cant believe you've used these pictures as an example. hahaha

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:16 pm
by ikarai
graff like this adds to the urban texture imo. and ^^ u 2 are comin over as pretty ignorant. 'how old are you' pft c'mon.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:20 pm
by bob crunkhouse
imo it does nothing but bring down already desperate areas. Just cant understand how it be beneficial to anyone or anywhere?! I am interested in the ages of people doing this because i always assumed it pretty young kids, bored, fighting the system etc.....turns out i was wrong.

btw ive said it before, but i have no problem with well executed, thought out graffiti.