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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:48 pm
by adikt
Pimp, you misunderstand me.
I do believe that there are strings, if you will. That they are being controlled by an elite group of people. And that the other ends are firmly attached to the heads of the populace. Did you read my comments about the Freemasons?
When a private club owns one of the largest sources of information(aside from the internet, which is owned by the same people, just under different names) in the world, it is really hard to say they do not control history. I mean, they own it!
Another example...the media making Bill Ayers into a 'terrorist'...obvious fucking media & therefore populace control. He wasnt a fucking Taliban soldier...he was an anti-Vietnam protester.
Question Authority.
That is the only way we will ever know the truth, good or bad.
See, my opinion is that the populace MUST open their minds & eyes.
Learn everything humanly possible. Listen to every style of music. Study every religion ever. Read every book you possibly can. Learn every way possible...go to school...drop out...live in every country there is...meditate...
Form your own beliefs & stand by them, but still keep an open mind towards others.
Constantly evolve.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:09 pm
by alien pimp
Adikt wrote:Pimp, you misunderstand me.
I do believe that there are strings, if you will. That they are being controlled by an elite group of people. And that the other ends are firmly attached to the heads of the populace. Did you read my comments about the Freemasons?
When a private club owns one of the largest sources of information(aside from the internet, which is owned by the same people, just under different names) in the world, it is really hard to say they do not control history. I mean, they own it!
Another example...the media making Bill Ayers into a 'terrorist'...obvious fucking media & therefore populace control. He wasnt a fucking Taliban soldier...he was an anti-Vietnam protester.
Question Authority.
That is the only way we will ever know the truth, good or bad.
See, my opinion is that the populace MUST open their minds & eyes.
Learn everything humanly possible. Listen to every style of music. Study every religion ever. Read every book you possibly can. Learn every way possible...go to school...drop out...live in every country there is...meditate...
Form your own beliefs & stand by them, but still keep an open mind towards others.
Constantly evolve.

yeah man, i might have got something wrong if this is your stand, nothing to argue with!
and because i'm open i kept showing good will and kept posting here, but like really, while i'm flooded with people who TRULY can't read a sentence not because they are dumb, but because they are mind locked, cctv just got not only the facial recognition software, but one able to "anticipate crimes" as it's all over media for people used to read more than beavis and butthead titles.
with this balance between developments you can't hope much
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:13 pm
by elbe
ok, just a sentence for you to read, prehaps you should consider some way to speak about peopl with diffrent views about the world than you other than closed minded, it is a patronising way of speaking that does you paranoid dellusional fuckwit views no help

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:24 pm
by alien pimp
eLBe wrote:ok, just a sentence for you to read, prehaps you should consider some way to speak about peopl with diffrent views about the world than you other than closed minded, it is a patronising way of speaking that does you paranoid dellusional fuckwit views no help

backatcha sir! for more accuracy replace closed minded with nutcase!
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:31 pm
by kins83
alien pimp wrote:eLBe wrote:ok, just a sentence for you to read, prehaps you should consider some way to speak about peopl with diffrent views about the world than you other than closed minded, it is a patronising way of speaking that does you paranoid dellusional fuckwit views no help

backatcha sir! for more accuracy replace closed minded with nutcase!
Textbook conspiracy theorist there. Well done.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:32 pm
by adikt
is there a synonym for closed minded?
i joke.
and Pimp, my original response was less detailed in my understanding and defiance of the strings that hold me but only because i do somewhat agree with those saying we have to move past that. I dont think it is the singular understanding by a person that will change anything. That is necessary but merely the first step. I do think a movement, revolution, or perhaps the best word: a RENAISSANCE of the minds of humanity would create a different future for our children, and I for one would rather spend my time discussing how we move forward, rather then how we are held back.
which leads me to ideas some friends & i have had recently...
-Interplanetary Guerrilla Underground
-Urban Beautification Council
both have already begun activity...
welcome to the future///

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:46 pm
by alien pimp
i am a partisan of revolution through increasing awareness, but i got to understand we can't fight them
i'll check these guys to see if it's something to learn thanks for the tip! i don't join large organised movements, usually this is how you get convinced to compromise in order to fit in.
later edit: those guys you mentioned are that underground google doesn't reach them! good for them. the names sound kinda hippy, but that means nothing actually

Re: Why nothings gonna change because of obama
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:52 pm
by FSTZ1
Dubsworth wrote:
DUDE, Jim Fetzer has become a huge problem for the 9/11 truth movement.
I remember we had this conversation when I was in SF
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:09 pm
by adikt
lol...the Interplanetary Guerrilla Underground & Urban Beautification Council are just theories, so dontbother looking into them. It was discussed that they should not become some unified thing with their own meetings & message boards. More like a network...like before the internet was around. You do your thing, I do mine & the networks just make sure people hear about each other. All genres, styles & types of people from every country(& planet...thinking of the future you know, lol) creating an alternative culture that shares only one common thread, to question and if need be defy those very strings I spoke of earlier. Not anarchy or punk or hiphop or indie or terrorist or anti-anything at all. Merely pro-art. pro-music. pro-culture. That is all.
And as for 'Urban Beautification"...that applies more to sound than graffiti. Like putting boomboxes with looped cds of rainforest sounds at busy city intersections. Soft ambient violins heard echoing down subway tunnels. Slight sounds of tv static in city parks. That kind of thing. Just making people question the reality around them.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:21 pm
by alien pimp
looool
i'm totally out of the loop with this shit man!

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definitely more spiritual than the shit on the current agenda of mankind
i hope they'll be able to pay rent, if you go too spiritual you usually lose your job i've heard
so finally i got something interesting and maybe useful out of this.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:37 pm
by adikt
spiritual? I'm not talking about hippies here, i mean, maybe also...but i want the bosses involved, you know? I'm aiming for doctors & professors that really would make a difference in the long run...I'm not talking about being all anti-system or anything like that. I'm talking about abusing the system in all the right ways. Bombing murals that cities DONT want to paint over. that kind of thing but on a broader scale. While at the same time editing clear channel billboards, lol...Throw controlled parties in public parks & invite children & grandmothers & city councilmen...Many things can be pulled off in the name of an 'art gallery'...come from many angles...evolve into every direction at once.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:50 pm
by alien pimp
who said spiritual means hippy?? not that hippy weren't spiritual at all but they're no reference.
i got you right man, don't worry!
and it all sounds dope as long as the bosses involved won't tell you what to do for the money they give you. it sounds like something i'd get in
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:06 pm
by adikt
bosses as in people already ingrained in the corporate or academic world.
there is no pay or people in charge, only culture.
we shall become the stringholders...
back to the original topic...Obama will have nothing to do with evolution.
this is the future underground

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:12 pm
by alien pimp
Adikt wrote:bosses as in people already ingrained in the corporate or academic world.
there is no pay or people in charge, only culture.
we shall become the stringholders...
back to the original topic...Obama will have nothing to do with evolution.
this is the future underground

hats off!
so, as i said, finding out about this kind of creative approaches are a win of this topic for me,
i just don't see why the hassle before

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:55 pm
by nousd
kins83 wrote:...if it's not working out Pimple, might I suggest you go and speak to other, 'enlightened' types. Clearly you grow tired of the brainwashed dullards.
Oh thanks Kinsman!
Anyway it's cool the Pimp found a friend in Adikt that could bring him something constructive. If it leads to less darkstep & the dissociation of ds from unrelenting pessimistic images, s'all good imo.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:06 am
by Tangka
just do your own research
for those thousands and thousands of intellectual scholarly people who have done their research, they are the "CRAZY PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE" that you should be taking a little more seriously, and hopefully they can inspire you to do your own research and find out what's going on for yourself. your college education was bought and paid for. wingnuts on youtube don't make a dime. of course there are people who go on tangents and fakes. so find out for yourself, eh?
stop trusting tv, common sense, school, even university, to serve up the real deal on a silver platter. stop even trusting people you know, such as myself, to give you your ideas.
read the books, study the government documents, follow the money, yes, trace the bloodlines, learn the history for yourself. home made documentaries make things easier, and there is a lot of good stuff out there. you will find many documentaries that report all their facts along with the names of documents you can check out.
there is nothing to fear! this slavery lies in closing your mind to all the options and potentials in life. this is the slavery and corruption of the information that you have access to. without the facts about who controls things and how, you will be their slave. with the facts exposed they will become powerless. this is our fight, and we need each other to win it.
it is my understanding that obama is a puppet just as clinton was. under his administration the pendulum will swing back to the left and keep you on your toes thinking that your vote changed something. obama is president, as well as a hypnotist, and now our people have faith in our system once more, even though we have not accomplished anything at all.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:23 am
by alien pimp
mate, i tried, they can't read as much as we can write
anything longer than the STFU part will be chopped and read backwards. i guess their secret hobby is spotting satanic messages on rock records
i mean one of them was "hurt" and felt bad when he was thinking things like you say, now that he loves obama is like mr blankey came back and everything is better
so really... if there's any hope, it's not here
maybe adikt knows a place
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:35 am
by Tangka
word
its a given that nobody wants to hear it,
so in turn we're the ones who have to care so much lol
set the balance straight and blow this apathy to smithereens
people are starting to wake up
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:08 am
by nousd
LOL
I remember that arrogance.
And I doubt that I could've been convinced otherwise.
Luckily most peebs recognize it for what it is
and avoid being infected.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:51 am
by Tangka
It is a mistake to place truth and rationality before love. If the truth brings fear, then the first step should be to find true love and understanding for all things. Truth and love go hand in hand really, or are even the same thing.
I do accept arrogance as something that I may appear to be. However, I am simply being true to myself.