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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:42 am
by blae-lue
It's just like the person above me who talked about it being like eating sweets all the time. It may be cool for right then, but eventually you're going to get sick.
I for one got into step after hear that wobble.
shit like emalkay-mecha, and i was trying to find all the hardest hitting shit
I diddn't even like any of the dubby stuff or subtle shit. but now i get and want to hear more
:? getting a little tired of the wobble that has no fucking back bone
nothing to grab onto other the gut shredding bass, which is great at times
but, if i were producing i would want to make the shredders. but would end up with some dubby, telfon tel aviv, wu tang, ratatat stuff
so make agressive/wobble/15 a daystep and make deep/dark/subtle step and make the techy/break/boxcutter/vex'd step shit
i'll listen to it all and if i like, i like it and if not then great, get it the fuck away and i might like some other day.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:01 am
by .spec
blae-lue wrote:
I for one got into step after hear that wobble.
shit like emalkay-mecha, and i was trying to find all the hardest hitting shit
I diddn't even like any of the dubby stuff or subtle shit. but now i get and want to hear more
getting a little tired of the wobble that has no fucking back bone
nothing to grab onto other the gut shredding bass, which is great at times
It's good to hear another Washington head posting that. Seriously.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:16 am
by abZ
It it official. Dubstep had turned into DNB
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:17 am
by blae-lue
Oly heads outta hand
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:30 am
by cosmic revenge
its just like any other genre of music: there are good artist pushing unique and fresh sounds, and there are artists pushing stale, trendy, bandwagon sounds. i just like dubstep in general because of the fact that even though it may not seem like it to some, to me there are so many fresh sounds coming from producers right now. its easy to look at the negative, but for fucks sake lets look at the positive. i mean just look at producers like 2562, ramadanman, F, jus wan, joker, appleblim, pinch, vvv, kito. that is only such a small scratch of the surface of dope producers. time will tell which producers will be remembered, as with any genre. my personal opinion is that mid range/wobble will become so played out that its novelty will wear thin, while other sounds and unique producers will be remembered and influence a new generation of people and so on
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:44 am
by paradise
Banger-after-banger sets I think are encouraged by two things:
1) Most clubs having poor systems with little to no bass. In these cases you really have to choose your tunes carefully, ones with heavy reliance on bass and minimal mids sound empty. Lots of tunes by Mala, Quest, Ramadanman, F, etc are just unplayable on such systems as they lose the bass/sub bass which give them their depth. Bangers, whilst using bass, also tend to have more mids, so playing them on poor systems isn't so bad.
2) More people getting into dubstep nights who don't care so much about the music itself but just want to be able to brock out/go crazy/get pissed etc. Bangers serve this purpose well.
Personally I hate banger sets, and you can easily play non-aggressive good sets which get people moving on less-than-great systems if you choose your tunes well. There's a danger that promoters etc. come to see dubstep as just being 'bangers', and book accordingly
What is the solution?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:47 am
by deamonds
as long as you bangher hard enough i dont see the problem...
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:07 am
by gkmusic
Paradise wrote:Banger-after-banger sets I think are encouraged by two things:
2) More people getting into dubstep nights who don't care so much about the music itself but just want to be able to brock out/go crazy/get pissed etc. Bangers serve this purpose well.
Personally I hate banger sets, and you can easily play non-aggressive good sets which get people moving on less-than-great systems if you choose your tunes well. There's a danger that promoters etc. come to see dubstep as just being 'bangers', and book accordingly
What is the solution?
I think it's completely up to the DJ's to be honest. FWD and DMZ nights are the best purely because of the wide range of shit you're gonna hear that night, These days when you go herbal or rhythm factory etc half the time the place is jam packed with hipster kids who've jumped on the whole dubstep thing just cos it's the "in" thing right now. For that reason DJ's play their banger sets (and lets not fuck about, it's mainly wobbles)
so the crowd get hype and therefore giving the promoters more reason to keep booking them.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:37 pm
by test_recordings
Reverend Dale wrote:TEST RECORDINGS wrote:I wouldn't mind if they were better produced! Quality has got WORSE in past two years, too much has got a 8-16bit edge on it and it sounds crap
you see, I hate music that is so highly produced and polished you can see your face in it. I love the old DAT recordings where you can hear the imperfections of analogue recording - 'Great Gig in the Sky' springs to mind. The last piano not contorts because of dodgy recording gear and tapes in the seventies, it's sublime, you can't add magic like that - it just happens by chance and these days it would be removed.
I'm talking about digital being bad, analogue is as better as much as the universe is real, digital just can't cut it compared because it's trying to recreate an event that's been effectively pixellised
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:07 pm
by Dark Reign
More bangers please
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:20 pm
by thinking
mattron wrote:what the fuck is wrong with banger after banger as long as they're good?
losing the contrast - a big tune doesn't seem so big after 10 other ones. Build a set comprising of different kinds of tune, with peaks & troughs, and your big tunes will have IMPACT.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:44 pm
by corpsey
It is what it is... I think there's still loads of good dubstep being made but overall it just seems that something's been lost since I first got into it. A lot of the people I know off here who were into it in 2005/6 seem to be playing and listening to other things (funky, 'wonky', house...) now, and I can sympathise with that.
Its inevitable really that music changes and if you got into it at one stage ages ago for a number of reasons you're obviously not going to be pleased when the music goes in completely a different direction, while others who have got into it more recently are going to absolutely love it in its current form. Also, when you've been into it for a few years the new stuff loses its freshness in comparison to what you've already heard - no doubt there are tunes coming out now that I'd have absolutely loved in 2006, but by now I'm comparing everything to I RMX, Haunted, Lean FWD...
I think the music is still evolving in interesting ways and ultimately, while I think dubstep is here to stay, the most interesting/heavy stuff might very well emerge from new scenes and forms over the next few years.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:35 pm
by the wiggle baron
Corpsey wrote:It is what it is... I think there's still loads of good dubstep being made but overall it just seems that something's been lost since I first got into it. A lot of the people I know off here who were into it in 2005/6 seem to be playing and listening to other things (funky, 'wonky', house...) now, and I can sympathise with that.
Its inevitable really that music changes and if you got into it at one stage ages ago for a number of reasons you're obviously not going to be pleased when the music goes in completely a different direction, while others who have got into it more recently are going to absolutely love it in its current form. Also, when you've been into it for a few years the new stuff loses its freshness in comparison to what you've already heard - no doubt there are tunes coming out now that I'd have absolutely loved in 2006, but by now I'm comparing everything to I RMX, Haunted, Lean FWD...
I think the music is still evolving in interesting ways and ultimately, while I think dubstep is here to stay, the most interesting/heavy stuff might very well emerge from new scenes and forms over the next few years.
Oh fuck off corpsey, I saw you as the last post and was expecting hilarity, not a thorough and well thought out assessment of the scene. You disappoint.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:38 pm
by corpsey
You see? Even Corpsey is shit nowadays.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:06 pm
by mattrelton
No.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:45 pm
by vaski
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm
by deadly_habit
abZ wrote:It it official. Dubstep had turned into DNB
no dsf has just turned into doa jr
Re: is anybody else sick of banger after banger after banger
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:15 pm
by alcane
Examiow wrote:Ive been listening to early dubstep tracks all day, and don't you just miss it? I mean there are some amazing producers doing amazing things at the mo, but its all the same old wobbles getting the recognition?
I feel the same about most D&B these days!
A lot of dubstep, if speeded up would essentially be shitty clownstep
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:22 pm
by capo ultra
wobble is wack