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feral witchchild wrote:

magma wrote:
I'm out. If I'm closed off, unenlightened, under the thumb of the man, or chemically brainwashed in your eyes then I'm sure I don't care

Nah not all, I don't think of you as such, in fact, I respect the fact that you question these things...it's good to approach these kinds of issues with a rational state of mind.

...but sometimes they're so blatant that's it's almost hard to believe people aren't doing anything about it.

I think of it in the same way as people being complacent about squalene adjutants in vaccines, they won't care until the adverse affects start manifesting (in the case of squalene-based vaccines, with immunological disorders years after the fact), and by then most people will assume that there isn't any connection.

+1 no doubt

alien pimp wrote:

magma wrote:

feral witchchild wrote:

alien pimp wrote: ahh, this settles it

On a fundamental level, it's just SO unthinkable that the US government, which actually went out of it's way to rescue and many N azi scientists and engineers after the end of the second world war, would employ any of the Third Reich's tactics for keeping people subdued...

Yeah, they totally wouldn't do that.

I'm out. If I'm closed off, unenlightened, under the thumb of the man, or chemically brainwashed in your eyes then I'm sure I don't care, but that's the most ridiculous place this thread could've gone. Yeah, the first test with flouridation was at a concentration camp - but it had been on the agenda for dental health since the 1800s. It's not a mind control drug. No science has ever shown it was a mind control drug. The only thing science does show is that flouridation can lead to an excess of tooth enamel in children.... that's it.

You're all caught up in a panic that someone at some point thought was a good idea... seriously, it's madness. I wonder if the press realise the butterfly effect this shit has.

do you know they claim they put fluoride in water exactly to help the teeth?
are you ready to post a picture with you sticking a coke bottle up your ass if i show you the science on fluoride?
it's one of the most toxic substances for the body ever and their only support for it its the small dosage, but ignoring the cumulative effect

I want science on the mind control, please, yes. The other stuff is useful, but it's that claim that I find a bit riciculous. My beef with FW is that he says it must be bad because it contains the same chemical as Prozac. My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

Mind control science, please.

magma wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

magma wrote:

feral witchchild wrote:

alien pimp wrote: ahh, this settles it

On a fundamental level, it's just SO unthinkable that the US government, which actually went out of it's way to rescue and many N azi scientists and engineers after the end of the second world war, would employ any of the Third Reich's tactics for keeping people subdued...

Yeah, they totally wouldn't do that.

I'm out. If I'm closed off, unenlightened, under the thumb of the man, or chemically brainwashed in your eyes then I'm sure I don't care, but that's the most ridiculous place this thread could've gone. Yeah, the first test with flouridation was at a concentration camp - but it had been on the agenda for dental health since the 1800s. It's not a mind control drug. No science has ever shown it was a mind control drug. The only thing science does show is that flouridation can lead to an excess of tooth enamel in children.... that's it.

You're all caught up in a panic that someone at some point thought was a good idea... seriously, it's madness. I wonder if the press realise the butterfly effect this shit has.

do you know they claim they put fluoride in water exactly to help the teeth?
are you ready to post a picture with you sticking a coke bottle up your ass if i show you the science on fluoride?
it's one of the most toxic substances for the body ever and their only support for it its the small dosage, but ignoring the cumulative effect

I want science on the mind control, please, yes. The other stuff is useful, but it's that claim that I find a bit riciculous. My beef with FW is that he says it must be bad because it contains the same chemical as Prozac. My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

Mind control science, please.

history, soviets, izan, it's all out there and it's no secret, google like i did
if you want me to provide, you gotta promise you'll come with that pic
and it's not exactly mind control, you're fighting your own words again, it's effects are sedation, retardedness and ruining cells

magma wrote: My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

You have a good point there, I will admit...however, how much of a role does talc play in the chemical composition of Ibuprofen? Is Ibuprofen derived FROM talc?

I don't know enough about the chemical composition of Prozac to say, but considering it's actual name begins with Fluo(xetine), I would wager it's at least derived from fluoride/fluorine itself, even if it's composed of other stuff, as well.

I could be wrong, though, and will certainly accept that if someone with more knowledge of the chemical composition of these substances would be willing to shed some light on the subject.

feral witchchild wrote:

magma wrote: My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

You have a good point there, I will admit...however, how much of a role does talc play in the chemical composition of Ibuprofen? Is Ibuprofen derived FROM talc?

there is no point there, talc is not put there to cure shit, unlike the fluoride in prozac being the main active ingredient

feral witchchild wrote:

magma wrote: My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

You have a good point there, I will admit...however, how much of a role does talc play in the chemical composition of Ibuprofen? Is Ibuprofen derived FROM talc?

I don't know enough about the chemical composition of Prozac to say, but considering it's actual name begins with Fluo(xetine), I would wager it's at least derived from fluoride/fluorine itself, even if it's composed of other stuff, as well.

I could be wrong, though, and will certainly accept that if someone with more knowledge of the chemical composition of these substances would be willing to shed some light on the subject.

The compound does contain flourine (of which flouride is a form), yeah, but at molecular level:

The compound for Prozac is (RS)-N-methyl-3-phenyl-3-[4- (trifluoromethyl)phenoxy]propan-1-amine (17 carbon, 18 hydrogen, 3 flourine, 1 nitrogen, 1 oxygen) - so lots of stuff in there other than Flourine, but it could still be the all important ingredient.

Interestingly, the research for antidepressants of this type appears to start with 3-Phenoxy-3-phenylpropylamine (no flourine) and, as well as Prozac, produced several other well-prescribed anti-depressants some of which do and some of which don't contain flourine. So it's certainly not the most active ingredient in there. It could well be there to regulate effects, but it's not there to create them in the first place.

Flourine is a very useful element as it will bond with almost anything, so it ends up making it into a lot of artificial compounds (see CFCs etc).

magma wrote:

feral witchchild wrote:

magma wrote: My Ibuprofen contains talc - does this mean that baby powder can cure a headache?

You have a good point there, I will admit...however, how much of a role does talc play in the chemical composition of Ibuprofen? Is Ibuprofen derived FROM talc?

I don't know enough about the chemical composition of Prozac to say, but considering it's actual name begins with Fluo(xetine), I would wager it's at least derived from fluoride/fluorine itself, even if it's composed of other stuff, as well.

I could be wrong, though, and will certainly accept that if someone with more knowledge of the chemical composition of these substances would be willing to shed some light on the subject.

The compound does contain flourine (of which flouride is a form), yeah, but at molecular level:

The compound for Prozac is (RS)-N-methyl-3-phenyl-3-[4- (trifluoromethyl)phenoxy]propan-1-amine (17 carbon, 18 hydrogen, 3 flourine, 1 nitrogen, 1 oxygen) - so lots of stuff in there other than Flourine, but it could still be the all important ingredient.

Interestingly, the research for antidepressants of this type appears to start with 3-Phenoxy-3-phenylpropylamine (no flourine) and, as well as Prozac, produced several other well-prescribed anti-depressants some of which do and some of which don't contain flourine. So it's certainly not the most active ingredient in there. It could well be there to regulate effects, but it's not there to create them in the first place.

Flourine is a very useful element as it will bond with almost anything, so it ends up making it into a lot of artificial compounds (see CFCs etc).

who said fluorine is the only anti-depressant?
who said anti-depressant substances can't be combined?
did you ever find in your entire researches one single study or scientist saying fluoride and his derivates don't have sedative effects?
how did you make the top most sedative substances in prozac?
since when the medical utility of one element derives from the fact that it bonds with almost anything?
the fact that it bonds with almost everything doesn't help the conclusion it bonds with your body too and stays there forever?
if it's such a good element why don't we see it in all sorts of products? what are his benefits for the body actually?
why the pattern of fluoride being present mostly in very small quantities alimentary/drugs meant to be consumed on daily basis such as water, toothpaste, medicine for long term treatments?
want more?

conscious_pilot wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

conscious_pilot wrote:if you're drinking anything other than water on a daily basis you're fucking custy as hell...bro.

seriously though, HFCS FTL.

unless you live in a place where they put fluoride in water

yeah, then in that case reach for the Coke.

believe me, even fluoride-full local tap water is safer than soft drinks that contain HFCS.

i'm assuming you were just making a joke though...

i don't believe random people on internet, i believe proves or the few people that earned my trust one way or another
i don't think any big companies gives up cash to protect our health, i don't think i've ever heard of such situations, but i heard a huge amount of the opposite situation.
i don't know what's worse, can you provide solid information about this?

yeah but if it wasnt for fluorine then the washing up would be a lot harder

Pimp, if you want to really get scared, you want to worry about dihydrogen monoxide... scary shit man and all over the place. It's in Coca Cola too actually...

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

i want to keep my teeth

magma wrote:Pimp, if you want to really get scared, you want to worry about dihydrogen monoxide... scary shit man and all over the place. It's in Coca Cola too actually...

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

i know about it, but thanks, might provide new info. but it might contain parts of different studies, i wouldn't want to commit some "censorship" by reading incomplete material
that reminds me i wanted to check the claims that this shit is in the flu vaccines too and not only

anyway, your first useful contribution for today

magma wrote: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Ahahaha wut. That's hilarious.

alien pimp wrote:

magma wrote:Pimp, if you want to really get scared, you want to worry about dihydrogen monoxide... scary shit man and all over the place. It's in Coca Cola too actually...

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

i know about it, but thanks, might provide new info. but it might contain parts of different studies, i wouldn't want to commit some "censorship" by reading incomplete material
that reminds me i wanted to check the claims that this shit is in the flu vaccines too and not only

anyway, your first useful contribution for today

Oh, you know about DHMO, yet you still think it's a "useful contribution"?

This proves the depth of your scientific method and knowledge, Alien Pimp.

Di-Hydrogen Monoxide.

That's 2 parts Hydrogen, one part Oxygen

H20

Water.

I thankyou, and goodnight. It's been a LOT of fun.

magma wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

magma wrote:Pimp, if you want to really get scared, you want to worry about dihydrogen monoxide... scary shit man and all over the place. It's in Coca Cola too actually...

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

i know about it, but thanks, might provide new info. but it might contain parts of different studies, i wouldn't want to commit some "censorship" by reading incomplete material
that reminds me i wanted to check the claims that this shit is in the flu vaccines too and not only

anyway, your first useful contribution for today

Oh, you know about DHMO, yet you still think it's a "useful contribution"?

This proves the depth of your scientific method and knowledge, Alien Pimp.

Di-Hydrogen Monoxide.

That's 2 parts Hydrogen, one part Oxygen

H20

Water.

I thankyou, and goodnight. It's been a LOT of fun.

dude, that hoax is like 10 years old or something, i can't remember when i first read that shit, chill the fuck out!

Yeah, which is why it's so hilarious you wanted to investigate it's presence in flu vaccine! I'm sure it is in flu vaccine!

The point is - all chemicals (water being a chemical) are dangerous in the wrong context. Relative dosage and method of application are just as important as the chemicals involved - without all this, the information on flouride is worthless.

Also, Prozac does not contain flouride remember - Prozac contains flourine at a molecular level, it does NOT contain flouride (which is a molecular form of Flourine the element!).

Perhaps you should think about taking a chemistry GCSE before you start arguing about chemistry on the internet?

magma wrote:Yeah, which is why it's so hilarious you wanted to investigate it's presence in flu vaccine! I'm sure it is in flu vaccine!

that was so obvious i wasn't really expecting for you to take me seriously, but you're more special than i hoped...
not even the part where i was making fun of your "censorship" claims didn't ring your irony alarm...

at least did you learn what mentalist means meanwhile?
connect

Yes, because we shouldn't ever use slang. Mentalist is a fairly common usage in that context in Britain, Mr Pimp.... and it fits you rather nicely in this thread too.

Do come back when you're able to provide anything to this thread that matters.

Buh bye.

magma wrote:Yes, because we shouldn't ever use slang. Mentalist is a fairly common usage in that context in Britain, Mr Pimp.... and it fits you rather nicely in this thread too.

you're the first one i've ever heard using it this way, but i can't say i'm an expert in your slang, so you're excused if others confirm your shit

magma wrote:Do come back when you're able to provide anything to this thread that matters

like what, jokes from when i was your age?

This ridiculous. How has it been derailed onto 'The Government' adding Flouride to water to 'Control Our Minds'?

That's even more ridiculous than any other theory mentioned so far. Flouride is naturally IN water anyway, slightly altering the amount isn't going to fucking brainwash you.

I've been using toothpaste for 23 years, and I'm just fine. You really need to stop thinking everything is a conspiracy working against you because it isn't. Wake up and enjoy your life. And avoid bullshit like this, because one day you'll lose it completely and start taking this cult propaganda literally and start throwing your money into the Eden project or some other scientologyesque bullshit.