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Into the Wild is about this. dude spends all his time trying to get to solitary life in Alaska and dies alone concluding that no experiences are worthwhile unless they can be shared. or somethign like that.

but surely there is good & bad energy and it must be about quality rather than quantity

these people don't care where their energy comes from it would appear

you've made your decision and trying to find a way to intellectualize it. its still a form of bigotry tbh.

the acid never lies wrote:

Pistonsbeneath wrote:this whole system is reliant on people being considerate to one another and looking out for their fellow man....i am only talking about behaviours that go totally against that

It seems to me that calling people out on their lifestyle choices fits more into this category tbh

how so?

looking out for each other isn't as simple as telling people what they want to hear all the time

parson wrote:you've made your decision and trying to find a way to intellectualize it. its still a form of bigotry tbh.

well that's your decision and how you intellectualize it

so you don't think different people provide different kinds of energy?

of course they do. and they don't need others judging them for it.

you really seem to feel like you're in a good position to judge others.

"…the demon that is always with you is the shadow following after you, and it is always where your eyes are not."
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parson wrote:of course they do. and they don't need others judging them for it.

yes yes but this point wasn't regarding judgement
i merely stated that i enjoyed solitude and you said we as humans need to be around other people....i was suggesting yes but not anyone....the right people..surely you can appreciate that?

you don't hang with anyone you meet do you?

it's not about snobbery even here but who is right for you

This thread has got so judgemental.

i spend a lot of time by myself.

but i have cats.

parson wrote:you really seem to feel like you're in a good position to judge others.

who doesn't?

you seem to have no problem calling people out for being stupid on occasion...that's your choice but just sayin you do

but i don't try to justify it. i know i do it when i get mad and impatient.

anyway it's been interesting but i'm off to bed...

read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn if the opportunity ever presents itself

Pistonsbeneath wrote:

the acid never lies wrote:

Pistonsbeneath wrote:this whole system is reliant on people being considerate to one another and looking out for their fellow man....i am only talking about behaviours that go totally against that

It seems to me that calling people out on their lifestyle choices fits more into this category tbh

how so?

looking out for each other isn't as simple as telling people what they want to hear all the time

Absolutely - I agree with you in principle but I think applying it to how people dress and value popular culture misses the mark. I would say too however that it is worth pushing values that we believe is best for ourselves and others - feminism, the civil rights movement etc. actively seek/sought to change the status quo. Why shouldn't we make value judgements about society?

bringing clothes into the discussion is gettin into a personal fascist agenda for the betterment of mankind and its on the creepy side

parson wrote:bringing clothes into the discussion is gettin into a personal fascist agenda for the betterment of mankind and its on the creepy side

parson wrote:bringing clothes into the discussion is gettin into a personal fascist agenda for the betterment of mankind and its on the creepy side

Principally we all need to have a certain degree of confidence in our ability to judge and weigh things up and part of that is staying humble and realising that we are all flawed and are prone to making mistakes. It is this thinking which leads to the idea that we shouldn't infringe on what others believe to be right for them despite our personal opinions which is what I think you're getting at. What my previous examples had in common was that they actively seek to prevent oppression.

"the betterment of mankind" is not in itself a bad thing it is of course how one goes about it

stamping out pop culture however vapid and enforcing intellectualism seems rather perverse!