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alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:I'm not avoiding it I'm just looking at other possibilities. You seem to be very set on one idea and too scared to even think about others. Since everything you say is dissmissive of other views etc and with every answer you try to twist it so that it looks like people just don't understand or try to avoid 'the truth' (your opinion).

man, i'm definitely based on the assumption something exists, and from there all the logical consequences
if i wasn't i wouldn't bother with anything, but for sure i had amazingly intense developments and feelings and those are deffo more than nothing

Fair enough.

Most stuff does point to existence in some way or another but I like to entertain the idea of nothing.

I don't believe in anything though really and I still bother with things. I don't think a reason is needed to do things it just helps to have one when you lose your way.

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:I'm not avoiding it I'm just looking at other possibilities. You seem to be very set on one idea and too scared to even think about others. Since everything you say is dissmissive of other views etc and with every answer you try to twist it so that it looks like people just don't understand or try to avoid 'the truth' (your opinion).

man, i'm definitely based on the assumption something exists, and from there all the logical consequences
if i wasn't i wouldn't bother with anything, but for sure i had amazingly intense developments and feelings and those are deffo more than nothing

Fair enough.

Most stuff does point to existence in some way or another but I like to entertain the idea of nothing.

I don't believe in anything though really and I still bother with things. I don't think a reason is needed to do things it just helps to have one when you lose your way.

if you think of it you'll realize how much more you can accomplish keeping it real

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:I'm not avoiding it I'm just looking at other possibilities. You seem to be very set on one idea and too scared to even think about others. Since everything you say is dissmissive of other views etc and with every answer you try to twist it so that it looks like people just don't understand or try to avoid 'the truth' (your opinion).

man, i'm definitely based on the assumption something exists, and from there all the logical consequences
if i wasn't i wouldn't bother with anything, but for sure i had amazingly intense developments and feelings and those are deffo more than nothing

Fair enough.

Most stuff does point to existence in some way or another but I like to entertain the idea of nothing.

I don't believe in anything though really and I still bother with things. I don't think a reason is needed to do things it just helps to have one when you lose your way.

if you think of it you'll realize how much more you can accomplish keeping it real

elaborate on keeping it real? you mean being certain of existence?

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:I'm not avoiding it I'm just looking at other possibilities. You seem to be very set on one idea and too scared to even think about others. Since everything you say is dissmissive of other views etc and with every answer you try to twist it so that it looks like people just don't understand or try to avoid 'the truth' (your opinion).

man, i'm definitely based on the assumption something exists, and from there all the logical consequences
if i wasn't i wouldn't bother with anything, but for sure i had amazingly intense developments and feelings and those are deffo more than nothing

Fair enough.

Most stuff does point to existence in some way or another but I like to entertain the idea of nothing.

I don't believe in anything though really and I still bother with things. I don't think a reason is needed to do things it just helps to have one when you lose your way.

if you think of it you'll realize how much more you can accomplish keeping it real

elaborate on keeping it real? you mean being certain of existence?

the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

alien pimp wrote:

kay wrote:

alien pimp wrote:i want to know how can you connect an existing point with a non-existing one, like my past that's not existing anymore. if it exists in this universe, it's gotta be defined by space also. can you think of anything that exists and they don't take space?

God

i know you're joking and testing waters, but if i am to take it seriously nobody says god is separated from space, rather one and the same

Ok, more seriously, photons and gluons exist, but they don't take up space. Or at least I don't think they do since they're massless particles.

kay wrote: Or at least I don't think they do since they're massless particles.

i can't put so much uncertainty in the equation

You just need to use the uncertainty principle.

alien pimp= wasteman.

kay wrote:You just need to use the uncertainty principle.

teach me

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

i'm still working on that, but i'm starting to like the results lately

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

You don't, that's why you keep searching.

kay wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

You don't, that's why you keep searching.

so what are you on about then?

You seem to say something deliberately cryptic so people ask what you mean so it looks like you know more than whoever it is you've decided to argue with when in fact you are as clueless as the rest of us.

Naw, I never try to be deliberately cryptic. Just thinking out loud as it were. Plus I just woke up. Also, I *am* as clueless as the rest of everyone. I generally don't assume I come from a position of "rightness" when I'm discussing (not arguing) about something I'm not certain about.

You asked how you'd know what the original reality looked like in response to what AP said. My response was that in this scenario you're never sure what the original reality looks like, because what you imagine to be the original reality may not be the original reality but yet another reflection. And so on. So you keep searching for the original reality, with the hope that it becomes more truthful at every step of the way.

kay wrote: in this scenario you're never sure what the original reality looks like, because what you imagine to be the original reality may not be the original reality but yet another reflection. And so on. So you keep searching for the original reality, with the hope that it becomes more truthful at every step of the way.

for me it's amazing we're debating this, this is what life has been about since ever. except when about bling

kay wrote:Naw, I never try to be deliberately cryptic. Just thinking out loud as it were. Plus I just woke up. Also, I *am* as clueless as the rest of everyone. I generally don't assume I come from a position of "rightness" when I'm discussing (not arguing) about something I'm not certain about.

You asked how you'd know what the original reality looked like in response to what AP said. My response was that in this scenario you're never sure what the original reality looks like, because what you imagine to be the original reality may not be the original reality but yet another reflection. And so on. So you keep searching for the original reality, with the hope that it becomes more truthful at every step of the way.

ha shit sorry kay, I thought it was pimp who had said that and was answering as if it were him who had used that as an answer. I have no problem with you whatsoever.

bandshell wrote:

kay wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

You don't, that's why you keep searching.

so what are you on about then?

You seem to say something deliberately cryptic so people ask what you mean so it looks like you know more than whoever it is you've decided to argue with when in fact you are as clueless as the rest of us.

dude, if i'm some smartass on some forum and pretend shit, that shouldn't matter anything at all for you, why would you bother with that more than with trying to extract whatever makes sense and is useful or fun from people's posts?!
twice a trimester even magma can give you a good tip.
all debates become so personal here because people feel more comfortable bashing people than bashing ideas
if you [people] start here looking smarter or more mature or whatever what do you imagine you can gain?

special olympics with an attitude, who wants a medal?

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:

kay wrote:

bandshell wrote:

alien pimp wrote:
the reflection in your mind of the close reality you evolve in being as close to the original as possible

the original reality? and how would you know what that is?

You don't, that's why you keep searching.

so what are you on about then?

You seem to say something deliberately cryptic so people ask what you mean so it looks like you know more than whoever it is you've decided to argue with when in fact you are as clueless as the rest of us.

dude, if i'm some smartass on some forum and pretend shit, that shouldn't matter anything at all for you, why would you bother with that more than with trying to extract whatever makes sense and is useful or fun from people's posts?!
twice a trimester even magma can give you a good tip.
all debates become so personal here because people feel more comfortable bashing people than bashing ideas
if you [people] start here looking smarter or more mature or whatever what do you imagine you can gain?

special olympics with an attitude, who wants a medal?

Stop talking down to me.

You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

The only person who gets personal is you from what I've seen.

I hope you realise what you're saying is what you do.

and in answer to that question, I think you want a medal.

bandshell wrote:You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

i think you are delirious about parson, and what if i go after magma, what that means and how does that make anything i said less true?

alien pimp wrote:

bandshell wrote:You say all debates become so personal yet you constantly go after parson, magma etc even when they aren't saying anything.

i think you are delirious about parson, and what if i go after magma, what that means and how does that make anything i said less true?

It makes it less true because debates don't get personal unless you are involved.

I was pointing this out because you talk down to everyone else yet everything you say which is negative about others is chiefly what is negative in yourself.