Could I just say people seem to have got the wrong idea about where I stand with this. I liked the initial idea to begin with but I've also agreed with everything that Deadly and Paradigm X have said along the way and can see that it's turning to shit. I don't want to be lumped in the box of naive 'lets master it in ozone and put it on megauploadz lolz' crew cos that's really not how I think.
And Basic A, there's a big difference between listening to 15 3 minute tunes and voting than there is listening to 2 and voting THATS why you get more votes when someone has a tune battle here. Not because of a lack of promo for the comps lol. The amount of listens on the soundcloud VS the amount of people that vote clearly demonstrates that people just cant be fucked to listen to every tune.
Anyway, fuck it, I throw in the towel. Too many shit ideas and bickering and bullshit in this thread to bother with. Maybe if I ever start up a label I will put out a release of DSF members, that's the only way it would ever get done properly. Bye Bye Thread.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:26 am
by logic pro
seen.
if thats all you can give. that was a fast towel-throw.
i have the feeling that basic a is biased on this as he tried already.
and if you ve read that thread, it seems like here everything has to run after basic a nose.
not saying that his points aint valid, no offense.
harsh move to call out the best guys in this project and say lets make something better.
im more like sirius (chea!!).
dont take it to serious and just do it.
poll is a stupid idea, seen the polls on this board.
so im down with a comittee if that is makin things easier.
dont throw the towel, just do it, cmon.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:28 am
by paravrais
Basic A wrote:
paradigm x wrote:Hah
As predicted.
descended into bickering less than 24 hours before i return lol.
Firstly Deadly is not negative. He has a lot of experience on both sides of running a netlabel as do I.
If you dont want it treated as a joke its a lot of hard work with a vision, which is why only a few are notable (exegene, early darklands, thinner etc).
Exegene for example had a proper site, proper artwork, rotating banners for each new release, bob went mad getting known/signed people to contribute. For every one he asked im sure 10 knocked him back. Promo mixes. A net radio show every week. Stickers. Etcetcetc.
Its not like making a few forum posts and it all comes together.
Some noob (no offence) shoving everything thru hiphop master3 in ozone is jokes, especially if even considering charging ! Most if not all of the subvert netlabels pay macc even for the free releases.
Webspace i said ill provide but to the point of giving login details to someone who knows what theyre doing, not getting involved.
People who cant even take a bit of practical and realistic advice are what cause all the problems, as i said before. Hence why label by committee is a crap idea. It needs someone to be in charge (or 2-3 max) to take control.
Has anyone considered that the owners of the site may need to be consulted if the dsf forum name is to be used, i cant see them wanting 14 crap badly mastered brostep tunes flaunted as an official dsf release. Just as an example.
Deadlys only trying to provide the knowledge youre going to need if this isnt just some idle speculation.
And if youre going to go that far why not do a proper label?
See, im prob 'being negative' too but its just reality. Flame away.
Oh and btw, single releases with a mix as promo, standard.
(im a bloke BTW)
THIS!!!!
Basic sort your shit out, seriously. In one thread your saying that it has to be a 'communtiy vote done by a poll' and then here your agreeing with paradigm that someone needs to BE IN CHARGE for this to work which is what I've been saying since the start. Aaah, this thing is making me so angry I need to switch the internet off.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:30 am
by paravrais
paradigm x wrote:Hah
As predicted.
descended into bickering less than 24 hours before i return lol.
Firstly Deadly is not negative. He has a lot of experience on both sides of running a netlabel as do I.
If you dont want it treated as a joke its a lot of hard work with a vision, which is why only a few are notable (exegene, early darklands, thinner etc).
Exegene for example had a proper site, proper artwork, rotating banners for each new release, bob went mad getting known/signed people to contribute. For every one he asked im sure 10 knocked him back. Promo mixes. A net radio show every week. Stickers. Etcetcetc.
Its not like making a few forum posts and it all comes together.
Some noob (no offence) shoving everything thru hiphop master3 in ozone is jokes, especially if even considering charging ! Most if not all of the subvert netlabels pay macc even for the free releases.
Webspace i said ill provide but to the point of giving login details to someone who knows what theyre doing, not getting involved.
People who cant even take a bit of practical and realistic advice are what cause all the problems, as i said before. Hence why label by committee is a crap idea. It needs someone to be in charge (or 2-3 max) to take control.
Has anyone considered that the owners of the site may need to be consulted if the dsf forum name is to be used, i cant see them wanting 14 crap badly mastered brostep tunes flaunted as an official dsf release. Just as an example.
Deadlys only trying to provide the knowledge youre going to need if this isnt just some idle speculation.
And if youre going to go that far why not do a proper label?
See, im prob 'being negative' too but its just reality. Flame away.
Oh and btw, single releases with a mix as promo, standard.
(im a bloke BTW)
:'( I agree with every point here and have been saying it since the start but nobody is listening :'( :'( :'(
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:49 am
by paradigm_x
Chill peeps!
Take a step back and deep breath and lets start again, from a stronger footing
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:12 pm
by paravrais
I just feel like the people that know how this needs to be done don't want to be involved and the people running it haven't got a clue and aren't listening to the advice we are giving over and over :/ if people are not gonna listen then what's the point?
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:28 pm
by Sinisterbeats
I think this thing has been taken far too seriously, I get the feeling the OP's vision was to get a few tunes together representing different artists from the forum and put them together as a showcase for some of the talent on here. I dont think he ever intended to start a DSF net label. I put myself up for being a 'judge' of the tunes because I felt having a small panel of unbiased people would be an easier way of selecting tunes. If people feel I haven't got enough experience or because I have a lower post count than some I will step back. Why not just give this a go though? Will it really do that much damage? And alot of people seem to think it will all fall apart anyway so whats there to worry about. Personally I think it is a great idea which is has been over complicated by people.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:32 pm
by logic pro
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paravrais wrote:I just feel like the people that know how this needs to be done don't want to be involved and the people running it haven't got a clue and aren't listening to the advice we are giving over and over :/ if people are not gonna listen then what's the point?
you already got free hosting and free help..from the peeps that know...
so why yer complaining? be positive, do it and you ll see what comes out of it, perhaps learn something and move on from there.
Sinisterbeats wrote:I think this thing has been taken far too seriously, I get the feeling the OP's vision was to get a few tunes together representing different artists from the forum and put them together as a showcase for some of the talent on here. I dont think he ever intended to start a DSF net label. I put myself up for being a 'judge' of the tunes because I felt having a small panel of unbiased people would be an easier way of selecting tunes. If people feel I haven't got enough experience or because I have a lower post count than some I will step back. Why not just give this a go though? Will it really do that much damage? And alot of people seem to think it will all fall apart anyway so whats there to worry about. Personally I think it is a great idea which is has been over complicated by people.
Sinisterbeats wrote:I think this thing has been taken far too seriously, I get the feeling the OP's vision was to get a few tunes together representing different artists from the forum and put them together as a showcase for some of the talent on here. I dont think he ever intended to start a DSF net label. I put myself up for being a 'judge' of the tunes because I felt having a small panel of unbiased people would be an easier way of selecting tunes. If people feel I haven't got enough experience or because I have a lower post count than some I will step back. Why not just give this a go though? Will it really do that much damage? And alot of people seem to think it will all fall apart anyway so whats there to worry about. Personally I think it is a great idea which is has been over complicated by people.
+1
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:46 pm
by noizy parka
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:20 pm
by logic pro
closing the new thread was really a shit move, could have locked the old ones instead...but from the start you have been against that legend4ry,
so using your mod power on this idea SUCKS BALLS HARD. how should he get submissions on a clusterfuck thread like this?
sometimes youre to hard to comprehnd.lols. sirius i like you moar and moar, funny guy. chea!!
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:24 pm
by legend4ry
logic pro wrote:closing the new thread was really a shit move, could have locked the old ones instead...but from the start you have been against that legend4ry,
so using your mod power on this idea SUCKS BALLS HARD. how should he get submissions on a clusterfuck thread like this?
sometimes youre to hard to comprehnd.lols. sirius i like you moar and moar, funny guy. chea!!
errr, edit the first post? It isn't abusing my mod powers, its called keeping the forum tidy. Its quite possible to have 3-4 bits of information in one post, ya know? I did ask the OP to stop creating threads about this compilation, also!
The main reason I am against it is because its like hanging out your washing for everyone to see your underwear. Do you really think its professional to have the birth > death of a compilation/label on a PUBLIC forum? If the OP had any thing to actually BRING to the table, he would of had a team WAY before posting this topic. Its highly unprofessional and I really don't think its a good idea because everyone and their mother can read this very controverisal thread, hows that going to look once the comp or label goes live? This thread is probably going to be #2 on google search... . Everyone has contributed to digging this idea its own grave.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:32 pm
by logic pro
no it isnt?
you dont like the idea, thats why youre shutting it down.
but just because you find the idea awful (why?) it is not worth shutting down.
keeping the forum clean, you cant troll me mane.
if he edits the first post, potentialyl, interested producers could submit their tunes, but they had to sift through 8 pages of haterade and discussion how it could be done or shouldnt be. twas a clear nice start, and your putting it down.
you gots to be joking, or i cant take you sirius anymore.
ok you edited your post:
if you dont want to see the dirty loundry, you should have locked those threads, and left with a clean start as the other was....ts.
not everything has to be "proffessional", let them have a experience...idk grime forum compilation (with joker tunes on it) was a forum thing too.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:34 pm
by DZA
BEEEF!!
No point in getting your panties in a twist everyone
this aint gonna happen anyways
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:37 pm
by djake
DZA wrote:BEEEF!!
No point in getting your panties in a twist everyone
this aint gonna happen anyways
and yea, i agree with lege, keeping it to one thread is simple
loads of people having rolling threads on the forum for radio shows ect...
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:37 pm
by paravrais
DZA wrote:BEEEF!!
No point in getting your panties in a twist everyone
this aint gonna happen anyways
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:39 pm
by legend4ry
DZA wrote:BEEEF!!
No point in getting your panties in a twist everyone
this aint gonna happen anyways
Exactly. I'm just trying to keep the forum tidy .
Logic Pro, if you are really that brutally hurt about the thread being locked then message the OP and submit your tunes and tell your producer network to do the same.
I ain't got anything else to say about this, theres plenty of successful projects what use one thread, including stuff ive done myself, like my radio show and my mixes...Its not like I am speaking blindly without any knowledge.
Re: DSF COMPILATION! Sortin out the Details...
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:41 pm
by 3za
1. get dubway's Permission to use the dubstepforum name.
2. ?????
3. profit
Most if not all of the subvert netlabels pay macc even for the free releases. 
. Everyone has contributed to digging this idea its own grave.
