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Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:32 pm
by 64hz
art is language though.
better to say words can be a prison if youre not aware of their ability to trap you.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:35 pm
by Genevieve
64hz wrote:art is language though.
In a way, sure. Art is far more aware of the fluidity of human thoughts and emotions, except it's also a bit too open for interpretation.

I think touch is the strongest form of expression.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:37 pm
by noam
Genevieve wrote:
64hz wrote:art is language though.
In a way, sure. Art is far more aware of the fluidity of human thoughts and emotions, except it's also a bit too open for interpretation.

I think touch is the strongest form of expression.
interesting

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:37 pm
by Genevieve
noam wrote:
Genevieve wrote:
64hz wrote:art is language though.
In a way, sure. Art is far more aware of the fluidity of human thoughts and emotions, except it's also a bit too open for interpretation.

I think touch is the strongest form of expression.
interesting
Elaborate?

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:42 pm
by christophera
art and language art aspects of a whole. arbitrary compartmentalizations are man-made constructions. we have to remember that we invented the lines on the map. the map is not the territory.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:43 pm
by noam
i just thought it was interesting that you find touch the strongest form of expression...

not interesting in a sceptical way, in a genuine make me think way

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:49 pm
by 64hz
christophera wrote:art and language art aspects of a whole. arbitrary compartmentalizations are man-made constructions. we have to remember that we invented the lines on the map. the map is not the territory.
yeah thats a good way of putting it.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:54 pm
by noam
christophera wrote:art and language art aspects of a whole. arbitrary compartmentalizations are man-made constructions. we have to remember that we invented the lines on the map. the map is not the territory.
do you think its actually possible to see beyond our limitations as a species though?

its a bit like the consciousness debate and those who believe it will be impossible to describe consciousness from our state of being

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:12 pm
by christophera
there's no debate about the 8 circuit model

there's just those that have connected the latter 4 circuits and those who have not.

our language quits working after 4.

each circuit available to an individual represents a more complex phase of evolution. The circuits activate in ascending order, providing an evolutionary link between the evolution of a individual human, hir species genetic history and the entire gene pool. In other words, each Neurological Circuit that activates provides an additional cognitive function within the entity that has activated it (whether or not they have awareness of the circumstances that lead to its activation)

Leary theorized that until recently in human development these higher circuits have remained dormant within the brain. However, he believed, that one could activate and experience the higher circuits with the use of some brain change technologies and techniques. Some of these include psychedelic and psychoactive drugs, Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) or Design Human Engineering (DHE), Light And Sound or Mind machines, Crowleyan magick, Meditation, and Yoga.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:20 pm
by christophera
the secret of nimh is about this.

mrs brisby/frisbee activates the full capacity of her mind at the end of the movie.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:35 pm
by christophera
cityzen wrote:
clifford_- wrote:will somebody PLEASE acknowledge the wheel!!!!
Wheeeeeeeeeeel up and come again!
Image
also gotta acknowledge this one :Q:

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:29 pm
by AllNightDayDream
64hz wrote:art is language though.
better to say words can be a prison if youre not aware of their ability to trap you.
Eh I would argue that it's different because language is a symbol used to represent something totally separate. There's no substance in a word itself. But art is all about substance in a way you can't escape.

Also FUCK THE WHEEL

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:31 pm
by Badman Juice
the printing press

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:33 pm
by LACE
cityzen wrote:Fire
love this fckn track.
:corndance:

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:55 pm
by clifford_-
whats with the hate for the wheel?
unless we got a forum full of joggers and powerwalkers...

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:57 pm
by Mr Hyde
clifford_- wrote:whats with the hate for the wheel?
unless we got a forum full of joggers and powerwalkers...
yeah, the wheel is good, but its no hoverboard

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:59 pm
by cityzen
clifford_- wrote:whats with the hate for the wheel?
unless we got a forum full of joggers and powerwalkers...
No hate, I just think we were rolling stuff on logs before we made the wheel so it's not as special as you give it credit for.
It's helped a lot, but greatest achievement it isn't.

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:02 pm
by the wiggle baron
fondues are sick...

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:05 pm
by clifford_-
cityzen wrote: No hate, I just think we were rolling stuff on logs before we made the wheel so it's not as special as you give it credit for.
It's helped a lot, but greatest achievement it isn't.
Wouldnt that be the wheel though? figuring out that something round can roll - then figuring you can utilise said log to carry things that you otherwise would struggle with??

Re: Humanity's Greatest Achievement

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:51 pm
by cityzen
clifford_- wrote:
cityzen wrote: No hate, I just think we were rolling stuff on logs before we made the wheel so it's not as special as you give it credit for.
It's helped a lot, but greatest achievement it isn't.
Wouldnt that be the wheel though? figuring out that something round can roll - then figuring you can utilise said log to carry things that you otherwise would struggle with??
Yeah maybe. I don't know the hstory of mankinds development well enough to say wether we were just making beasts of burden do all the work before or after the wheel came about. Maybe your suggestion has been overlooked by the rest of the ninjas. I still say the printing press though. Spread knowledge to the masses. The internet of its day.